Do you use a Apple M1 ?

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Do you use a Apple M1 ?

  1. Yes I have the MBA

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  2. Yes I have the MBP

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  3. Yes I have the mac mini

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    10.2%
  4. nope

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  5. not yet

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  6. maybe, I still wait

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  1. Xupito

    Xupito Audiosexual

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    Many Windows users we'd love a PC-Windows competitor for Apple's M1 processors.
    But it wouldn't need necessarily to be ARM-based, though obviously they're far ahead of the rest nowadays.

    The key points, besides Apple's killer move with GPU and especially RAM embedding in the same processor are:
    1. The famous extremely high transistor density of TSMC (perhaps Samsung): 5nm, then 3nm,... (very roughly directly proportional to transistor's size)
    2. RISC [edited: ARM are RISC]: reduced instruction set. This one is less known but there's already a proposal for a standard royalty-free in the industry: RISC-V
    RISC processors simply do better in the age of lot of cores and point 1.
     
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  2. phumb-reh

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    ARMs are RISC processors. RISC-V is similar but no licensing of course.

    We will have to see how the Intel little.big-chips do, they might have similar advantages as M1. But they're not out yet.
     
  3. Xupito

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    Yep, I forgot to mention that. I meant the benefits come from good RISC design, not necessarily ARM.
    Currently ARM is the best at that by far. And Apple as the higher final layer with their game-changer M1 architecture.
     
  4. phumb-reh

    phumb-reh Guest

    True, but I'm sure RISC-V will eventually catch up, though now it's nowhere near ARM quality. And we'll see how x86 world reacts.
     
  5. samp

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    ALl keygen is Work with Crossover 20.04 , you don't need windows
    jut you need keygen.exe, open keygens with crossover all works
     
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  6. SineWave

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    Like "never and/or never will" maybe? :)

    However, I do see an even brighter future for ARM. I like that stuff. It's very flexible, modular, large span of uses and choice of power consumption etc. Personally I would like to use one ~30W or lower ARM based computer with 8 cores for daily work instead of these 200W+ monsters.

    And of course, I'd use it with Linux, and I would pay far less for a mini-desktop one. Raspberry Pi is very close to what I have in mind... but hopefully someone will start selling various separate versions of ARM CPUs and motherboards, introducing the 3rd player into the playing field. :wink: Those could run all the Unix varieties + MacOS in some cases, and there's even a Windows version for ARM...

    but using ARM CPU is very useful to finally get away from all these stupid and getting more stupid propriety OSes.
     
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  7. FALustikus

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    I use a MacBook Air M1 for mobile recordings because it has no fan noise.
     
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  8. D-Music

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    no im a loyal and have the super special black and yellow gift card to the gpcmr
     
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  10. kh_minusone

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    I can't even afford the DAW and plugins I use... anything Apple is unreachable to me
     
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  11. LuckyMe

    LuckyMe Noisemaker

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    My maxed MBP 2014 just killed it's motherboard , now I'm in tossup between fixing it for 600 and wait for m1x or get a similar M1 air for 1900 now. I use quite a bit if warez and I'm worried for compatibility .
     
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    got same problem, want buy new m1x macbook but im not sure if cracked plugins will work properly
     
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    vuuru_keg Platinum Record

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    at this point most of them will work fine, but only under rosetta, speaking from experience,
    im assuming its gonna take some time till crackers will learn the ARM arch. and started cracking on it as often as they do on x86_64..

    for now only CODESHiNE cracked both intel and ARM universal binary
     
  14. Moonlight

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    I bought a Mac Mini M1 meanwhile and I love it !
    Especially Logic works like a charm, Studio One however suxx (it always sucked on macOS compared to Windows tho) compared to it performance wide and stability.
    Autosampling CPU intensive VST Instrumenst is no much fun and joy when you look at the CPU meter after unloadinbg CPU hogs :)
    Lets see how good and when Presonus will create a native build.

    Something godd is that Logic comes with a great collection of native Plugins.

    Most stuff isnt available native anyways...

    Time to get back to teh basics and just use a few stable plugins rather then collecting gigabytes stuff.
     
  15. LuckyMe

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    whats the issur with s1 ? Thats what i USe. And i would like to be bale to finish some projects

    i use ff pługs Arturia and melodyne mostly .
     
  16. spncart

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    M1X is not out yet.

    M1 works perfectly with cracks vs. Mojave/Catalina, except when instructions are bad on sister site (which happens a lot, but if you're smart enough, you will do it properly).
     
  17. thewire

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    Yep.. $2000 MBP 16GB ... Super fast! I have tried Ableton 11 and Protools 2020.12.0 thus far, works well using various plugs... all legit. Im waiting for UAD compatibility to use my plugs plus Luna is dope! Amazed at the M1 speed.. faster than my $4200 Intel MBP 64GB. Intel ripped me off! smdh
     
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  18. Titan

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    Anyone using acustica audio plugins with m1. What’s the performance?
     
  19. mrpsanter

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    Not directly related to the thread but anyway:

    Do you guys think that the M1 spells the end of the Hackintosh?
     
  20. tzzsmk

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    probably yes, but not anytime soon,
    my 7-year old hackintosh still outperforms M1, so Apple needs to try harder to destroy desktop market where power efficiency is not that important
     
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