Is this a bit like that Germany doesn't have comedians, they have "humor engineers"?

 

I'm a DAW and VST plugin engineer.

 

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No, there is no humor in germany.

 

who keeps score for each mixing engineer? How many yellow cards can a prospective mixing engineer get before they're benched? Is it SMPTE, God, CE, UL, EU, AES, SAG, ASCAP, GEMA, NASDAQ, Discogs, etc who bestows the title? Where's the proof ultimately? Who holds the proof? What organization is the de facto holder of this information? What is the danger of irresponsible usage of the title "mixing engineer" for example? Do we end up with something like the Loudness War except it's the "Lo Fi War"?

Anyways, it's just absurd in the first place to even be concerned in the sleightest bit as to whether you should consider yourself or someone else an audio engineer. Just keep plugging away and let them try to stop you. One day you'll meet the wizard of oz.

 

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I don't think the question is absurd. I think it's good that in the creative industry, less attention is paid to certificates and more to expertise and experience, but... even something like that has to be proven! Where will we end up if someone calls himself a mixing or mastering engineer just because he owns a pc and some cracked plugins. Well, then I call myself carpenter in the future, because I have tools in the basement and work with wood from time to time... or maybe architect, because i can operate a CAD software.

 

the thing is, even experienced engineers, architects and carpenters can have a hard time finding work so good luck to anybody who knows nothing and still able to fool someone with cash who is able to see and hear. I don't care if Hellen Keller mixes an album, do you? if it sucks, then no one will listen and that's too bad but there's about 10 gazillion other albums to listen to.

if a fake engineer tries to rip of the wrong mafia connected musicians they might end up sleeping with the fishes, see?

 

There's hidden level on top of Professional Audio Engineer..

It's called Brofessional Audio Engineer.. haha i've no idea what that is, it's sound so pro..

 

We could start a new thread called " About the word Professional".
Which means somebody who is paid to provide their skills, and it is their paid income. Their profession.
It will sound like it is made by somebody who does this for a living. It will not sound shabby.
But "pro" does not have a sound. Amateur does.
That is your subjectivity coming into play.

 

thats another profession called acquisition

 

worst case scenario: fake engineer accidentally bleach bits all the client's hard drives.

even worst case scenario: real engineer gets offended at the insolence of a non-engineer who dares claim the hallowed title Engineer.

 

There is a difference between calling yourself an engineer and being called an engineer.

 

True story... Meet Dr. Zoe D. Katze, Ph.D., C.Ht.

Dr Katz is certified by the National Guild of Hypnotists, the American Board of Hypnotherapy,
and the International Medical & Dental Hypnotherapy Association.
She is a Professional Member of the American Association of Professional Hypnotherapists.

One slight problem...... Dr Katz is actually a CAT

http://www.dreichel.com/Articles/Dr_Zoe.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_awarded_human_credentials
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Personally, I imagine Zoe the cat has many adorable qualities,
including she's sane and couldn't give a rat's ass about whether she is 'qualified' or not.

 

Even worse case scenario ever in the world, ever, is real engineer somehow directly loses work to the fake, loses wife, even his dealer thinks he's whack because he got beat to the gig.
The fake is found out and on the run.
The real engineer goes to the mob, with his last cash from his social payment, and says "Okay, so there's this fake engineer guy, yeah..."
And the mob says "That guy? Man, we had money riding on that failed album! I tell you what, we'll whack him for free!".
Either the fake wanted an easy way to get the inertia and trajectory to fly out of his body and straight back to the source, or there is a moral to this story.
Which is a story very similar to things that have happened. Allegedly.

I admit, it was scarey having a job title I had to try and fulfill somehow! lol.
"Hey everybody. Meet Smoove, my new assistant and onstage monitor engineer".
All of a sudden it's more like under-playing it:
Me: "Awww, no, I'm just training! He's training me. Please don't ask me anything or look at me if we're behind schedule!". lol