YouTube fucking your sound

Discussion in 'Working with Sound' started by tzzsmk, May 21, 2021.

  1. tzzsmk

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    so, apparently YouTube prioritizes certain videos over others, ignoring the loudness standards :snuffy:

    right-click the video and show "Stats For Nerds", you'll see how much sound is "lost" in a loudness war..

    for reference, this track retains 100% loudness:



    while this track is normalized to 48% volume by YouTube bots:




    funny thing is, try download and reupload that first video, it will get magically normalized because you aren't VIP :rofl:
     
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  3. odod

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    AFAIK YouTube has changed to -14LUFS since september 2019?
    maybe now they have new "weird policy" again
     
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    Interestingly, if you dl the audio files (lossy but still), adjust both to -1TP, Superstar by Ninet has -8,6LUFS and RISE by I Prevail has only -9,8LUFS.
    Means the lower track is lowered. :woot:

    So, for a targeted LUFS of -14 the first track should've been lowered by 5,4 (not as it is) and the second only by 4,2 (not 6,3).
     
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    You$Tube is not only fucking with your sound but are also deplatforming or cutting off the visability and flow of many journelists and bloggers, and instead by way of algorithm pushing to the fore corporate media while not holding them accountable for false and misleading reporting. Its a double standard that is beneficial only to big money interests.
     
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    hopefully thepopnetwork get finished, than there is a great chance that youtube fades out
     
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    youtube is the PAST. gone. dead. over. history.
     
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    unless www brokes for a year or yt goes down from alone it will not happen
    dailymotion comes right after youtube in ranking but with huge distance imo

    show us the statistics ---you talkin in wishes
     
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    Since when?
     
  10. bobdule

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    Codecs & connection speed are not the same.
    they sold codec and bandwith with a commercial account.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Integrated loudness. The first track has 1min20sec before the "loudness" comes in. Take that into account. Similar to other tracks that have weak/soft intros.
     
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    ? I measured LUFSi, of course. The first song is louder than the second, IOW, has a higher LUFSi and therefore should've been lowered more than the second, not the other way around, like YT did.
     
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    I don't think YouTube takes integrated loudness value into account solely, would be too easy to cheat and I doubt YouTube would keep being fooled
     
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    so why they make different adjusting ?
     
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    also YouTube updated their terms of use, now they can throw ads and monetize whatever video they want no matter if user/channel has monetization disabled :dont:
     
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    AFAIK Youtube measure integrated loudness (integrated LUFS). If you have a long passage of low loudness, your integrated value is lower. Thus less normalization is applied.
    Edit: I think I understood the issue correctly. But show me stats or links if I'm wrong.
    Edit 2: Maybe Youtube is measuring the first x number of seconds/minutes and bases the loudness off of that. That would explain things.
     
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  17. BEAT16

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    Many are now leaving YouTube and going to Bitchute.:wink:

    BitChute is a video portal based on the BitTorrent method. BitChute primarily use video producers whose channels have been deleted or demonetized by established portals such as YouTube.

    https://www.bitchute.com

    YouTube Terms of Use :dont:

    On June 1, 2021, we will update YouTube's Terms of Service to specifically prohibit the collection of any information that could identify an individual without their consent and to clarify how content on the Service can be monetized:

    Right to monetization
    You grant YouTube the right to monetize your content on the service. This monetization may include showing ads in or within the content or charging users for access. This agreement does not entitle you to any payments. Payments that you receive from YouTube as a result of another agreement between you and YouTube (e.g. through the YouTube affiliate program, channel memberships, or Super Chat) will be treated as royalties from June 1, 2021. If required by law, Google will withhold taxes on these payments.
     
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    problem is 'nobody goes to bitchute to listen music
     
  19. BaSsDuDe

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    It has become worse - They are now deducting American IRS Tax on every video that is monetizing regarding royalties in their new TOS.
    What this means for anyone on youtube who is not in the USA is they will effectively pay double tax. They will pay US tax and if their government decides that their income into their country's bank is taxable which a majority always have, you will pay tax again.
    That's pretty shitty.
     
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  20. recycle

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    Regarding Youtube, It is impossible to fully understand the continuous changes of direction on the codec specifications, the reasons for the different bitrates, the LUFS, the (apparently) random use of m4a, ogg, VP9 etc. All the information available that we can have comes from nerds who test files and publish reviews, but on the youtube site there is no news about it.
    I don't understand this behavior: Why is there no detailed information of their audio/video procedures on the official site?
    Why this lack of transparency?
     
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    Youtube and Google are cancer.
    I use Invidios shells to watch it if I need to: https://redirect.invidious.io/

    They are an enemy of free speech, privacy , and sovereignty. This is what becomes of allowing certain groups to control everything
     
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