Sorry brother! Haha. It's impossible to not read it that way, bearing in mind it's in English!

Anyway, definitely a good call with this:
https://www.cambridge-mt.com/ms/mtk/
I think I might have a play with this, thanks!
Gr8, m8!

 

Guys don't panic. The sub is only to be used sporadically. It is not used to mix with. To illustrate. The H5s are deficient when it comes to low-frequency response. People that use the H5 tend to overcompensate for such deficiency. In this case, a well dialed-in sub, at the proper level, comes in handy as a check/reference tool. In other words, the sub usage in this scenario is a la Avantone Pro MixCube but on the opposite side of the frequency spectrum. Nothing more.
@No Avenger as to whether the transition from HS5 to sub works depends on 2 factors. The room and the operator. In a well-treated room you can mix with that combination as long as you have dialed in that subwoofer properly and are able to work around the HS5 excessive mid-range and lack of cojones in the 180-400Hz. Indeed, the bass is shelved down below 600Hz and a 4-6 dB peak at 1Khz. In their favor, I must say that while far away from perfect, anyone who is capable of making a good-sounding mix with HS5 has a winner because they will translate extremely well to other systems. I have a pair of HS5 that I have modified to mirror the frequency response of my NS10Ms, and I take them with me everywhere.

 

why don't you share your past work during your time u still working in the studio with the console desk and all.. just to be fair to your self.

 

I really like it when we use technical terminology. I do it as well all the time

 

I'd be careful with these kind of plugins. They don't (can't) compare the content. You can mess up a mix and still have the same freq distribution and dynamics.

 

Wisecracker. To anyone familiar with the English language this is obvious, but not all of us are.
C U l8r, alig8r.

 

Oh, W8!
You took the B8 and are starting to XLR8!

 

No sign of panic here, all good.

I'm sceptical because I lack the experience to set up such a 2.1 system. Everytime I had the mis-pleasure to listen to such a bedroom-system it sounded, err, how to put it, not convincing (no clear low end, phase and freq cancelation).
I'm convinced this can be done in a treated room by a pro, but that's not the case for OP.

 

I Used to have a small office around 16sqm and I tried to make it 5.1 just each movies in my free time. But it wasn't acoustically treated. I used the mm version of five NS10 and a Mackie MR10s as sub. some frequencies were all over the room, some others cancelled , and others were boost in a spot and in another spot in the room, gone. And I wasn't even pushing the volume.

Fully agree. You can use those kind of stuff but always judge with your ears, not your eyes. As a weatherman once said, I use tow different weather models to calculate and predict the weather, but before announcing anything , I check the view from my window , just to be sure

 

Other mix did it today
original no mastering :

my mix no mastering also, opinions welcome:

 

That's a big jump in comparative loudness for something that isn't "mastered."

It actually made my dog jump and leave the room.

Bed that vocal in a little more it would do wonders.

Portuguese is a sibilant language so a little more dessing and less sizzle might go a long way.

All this might be cultural and regional preferences though and you might be mixing for your local esthetic. You seem in the ballpark of this, though the vocal is a bedded in a little better and has less sizzle it. Don't underestimate regional taste when working across borders and genera.

For the type this is what most people are used to... this really well done and has a sound that crosses borders well.

 

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Just a tip, don't overdo it with the drums compression. It's a ballad. It doesn't need to be that loud. it doesn't sit properly in the mix.

I think Portuguese is OP's mother tongue, so he is aware of the regional preferences.

 

You are right i i was really heavy handed with the drums , thanks for for the head up.

 

The balance of the channels seems to be a bit off, but I like the vacuum at the beginning.

Maybe you could try this with something like the Mastering the Mix's challenge: https://www.masteringthemix.com/blogs/learn/how-to-balance-all-the-elements-in-a-mix
You should be able to reach level 7 or 8.

 

Sure use with a little common sense. If your reference is in similar key/style/sound I've found it to be extremely good. 100 x better than that Neutron Tonal Balance that is in a similar style, this one actually works.
It's also good just for the ease of use with the quick frequency select to A/B between references. Used in combination with Voxengo Span, I think it's a great reference plugin. Give it a try.

Always a redundant comment. Use both!

What is that cicada noise you've brought out?
You can hear it hard out at 1.30 I had to check if there was a cicada sample in the original.
Why the volume jump? I feel with your vocals/mixes you are missing the air/top that's in the center.

 

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Yeah i overdo the drums ,thanks for the feedback

 

Balance ,have to revisit that, apreciate the comment.

 

That's the plugin I was mentioning. Soo good!

 

isn't that so loud for a not mastered track? also some high frequency noise keeps playing like i'm listening after a grenade explosion or something.


ps: i guess no gating drums and boosted some high end significantly