(plugin-alliance.com) Brainworx bx_limiter True Peak

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  1. itisntreal

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    You meant A.O.M invisible limiter
    i like this plugin
     
  2. vayabahia

    vayabahia Producer

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    Same here :rofl:
     
  3. thantrax

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    Dirk's business model has been "enlarged" :winker:.
    €49 off only?


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  4. 5teezo

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    I think Limiters are far less significant nowadays since everything doesn't have to be ridiculously loud any more.

    That's why I won't spend another dime on a Limiter. I just use the one inside of Ozone 8 Elements or L2 or the TruePeak Limiter included in Waves Loudness Meter Plus.
     
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  5. noise.maker

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    The words "true peak" is a scam, croocked selling advertising. Almost all audio materials going to LUF, LUFS measurements.
     
  6. No Avenger

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    I think it's rather the other way around, everything (in the charts) is still loud as hell - sadly. Even Rag'n'Bone Man's Human is lowered by 7dB on YT means, its produced at ~ -7LUFS and that's neither EDM nor Metal.
     
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    No, it's not. It's not a measurement but a calculation, a prediction.

    Right, LUFS (as per definition always) in relation to TP, like -14LUFS at -1TP (compare with the first part of your statement :winker:).
     
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  8. depijp_HSK

    depijp_HSK Ultrasonic

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    I'm thinking of buying a new Limiter and/or a clipper plugin. Both hold dynamics in check if I understand correctly and up until now I like (at least on drums) the (soft) clipper over any Limiter Ive used. Are my ears broken or do I not use my tools correct?

    I currently use Cytomic the glue in ratio 10 as 'limiter' and sir audio standardclip and am also eyeing this and/or submission audio flatline btw
     
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    (soft) clippers work great with drums, no doubt.
     
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  10. itisntreal

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    Do you have any example which soft clippers
    you prefer
     
  11. No Avenger

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    Stillwell Audio Event Horizon, but mostly only with the Threshold parameter on the left, sounds more punchy.
     
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  12. 5teezo

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    I don't think so. The YT Loudness Level is -14 LUFS and that's what I am using for reference in my music production and sound design works. So my Limiters are actually doing almost nothing - it's just there to catch peaks.

    In 15 years in audio-post production I never had complaints by clients about Loudness - even before the new loudness standards were iplemented. Sure, audio-post production isn't just music, but from my experience, a unbalanced correlation of music, voice overs and sound effects bothers clients more than loudness.
     
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  13. Jim Von Gucci

    Jim Von Gucci Producer

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    Are you making music for clubs, Dj's or any format that isn't streaming?
    Pop, Hip Hop, EDM?
    It's generally -8Lufs and above.
     
  14. Smoove Grooves

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    Two different plugins, and the Inflator is a totally different plugin!
    Two different plugins, and the Inflator is a totally different plugin!
    Regardless of how it "sounds".

    From Sonnox:
    "The Inflator is not the same as the Enhance feature in the Oxford Limiter, although the effects might be considered similar. In simple terms, the Inflator is a special kind of distortion generator which has no dynamic activity over time. It's a static process. It gives the impression of loudness by providing the harmonic cues we associate with loud and stressed sounds, increasing the harmonic density of the material in a way that is sympathetic to the ear."

    So it isn't a limiter.
     
  15. Jim Von Gucci

    Jim Von Gucci Producer

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    I ask a simple question and you get butt hurt. I disagree because nearly every current song is above -8Lufs.
    No. Everybody can make -14Lufs easily!! Even yo momma! Not everyone can get to -6Lufs clean.
    It must suck to not have made anything good since 1995.
    You mustn't be listening to current music, I can put any current song into a meter and it is above -8Lufs.
    Even CD was -9Lufs.
    If you get offended by a name it reflects you. You must like being broke.
    You don't have to worry I don't make hip hop or maybe you don't even know hip hop is the culture of bling and fashion even in 95.
    Maybe you are so butt hurt because you don't believe or actually have any skills?
    Maybe try a limiter?
     
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  16. Smoove Grooves

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    From what I've heard of Stan's stuff, way more skillful and knowledgable than you know.
    Responding in truth is not "butt hurt".
    You sound like a child. All you are doing is sounding "butt hurt" and accusing another of it.
    His productions are great. You are wrong.
    Nah. Please look up the word culture, too.
     
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  17. Jim Von Gucci

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    I ask a simple question. Are you making music for clubs, Dj's or any format that isn't streaming? Instead of answer yes.
    Take of his response it's pretty clear he's offended but like usual you can't comprehend.
    I should hope so if he's producing since 1995!!
    You might want to look up the word culture yourself!
     
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  19. bear on fridge

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    Did some testing, compared it to: L2, DMG tracklimit, Acon Limit, Softube weiss limit , LaxLimit4 and here it is..
    Closest to bx_Limiter true peak is LaxLimit4. Managed to make it behave ~90% Similarly in terms of sound coloration and shaping.
    Next would be L2(with aggressive style) and Acon Limit. They have little to none coloration, but managed to make the sound behave in similar fashion.
    Then Softube and Tracklimit. Former is no good in my opinion.
    To conclude and for those who might be reading and interested, if you want similar sound (if you like bx_limiter tp) then LaxLimit4 might be better option in most situations (if you are into loudness wars and still need TruePeak limiting). If sound coloration is not what you are looking for, then try to avoid them both and go for L2. From what I understood there was some hype around bx_, but after doing some testing, can't say there is something to be hyped about. Just looks like pretty good Limiter with strong coloration.
    Edit: Another great Limiter that I forgot to test before posting, that smokes Bx_limiter true peak (in my opinion) is voxengo elephant.
     
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  20. qhemist

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    So because they don't have the same descriptions means they are different categories of tools? You use a maximizer/limiter combo at the end of your chain. This "limiter" from BX had lots of coloration and not transparent. While Sonnox Oxford maximizer/limiter can be transparent, they can also be very colorful. I could never get transparency with this BX limiter and the coloring wasn't always optimal.
     
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