Ableton 11 Mac Users: Izotope Stuff, Ozone 9 etc. and other reportedly problematic VSTs work fine!

Discussion in 'Live' started by jackslab27, Feb 23, 2021.

  1. jackslab27

    jackslab27 Member

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    Hey,
    first up I am in Mojave running new 'inofficial' Ableton 11 from sister site, I know, sorry R2R, was just too curious.
    don't know if this is really news, or someone figured this out before, just wanted to share, after a little trial and error, how I got my VSTs of Ozone 9 and some other izotope stuff to work on Live 11, that initially would not open and could not be codesigned, similar to the issues on newest live 10 versions for mac on sistersite. this will probably work for lots of other plugs that were not working from live 10.1.13 on:

    1: right click on .vst file, click show contents. delete files named "Icon?", "Icon" or "_Icon" from within the plugin contents. could be multiple such icon files in there, mostly just one though.

    2. Open Terminal, run following two commands in this order:

    - xattr -cr [PLUGIN.vst]
    - sudo codesign -fs - [PLUGIN.vst]

    for n00bs, in place of the [PLUGIN.vst] I wrote here you put the path of the plugin vst File. just drag the file into terminal after typing each command. The Space before the filepath is part of the command and needs to be there or it wont work.

    Hope this works for you, Have fun!

    (I never downloaded sistersite ableton versions after 10.1, cause I didnt need any of the updates + people were complaining about the vsts not working, so I don't know for sure, but I'd assume this pretty much should also fix the same issues in the last Live 10 versions that were not running some VSTs, most notably izotope stuff)
     
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  3. SamCH

    SamCH Ultrasonic

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    [​IMG]

    everything is workin well without any extra manipulation.
     
  4. jackslab27

    jackslab27 Member

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    well, this screenshot shows you using the AU version, which we all know is working fine and not a problem, hence I was talking specifically about VST in this thread. Which in turn reportedly many people could not get working from 10.1.13 or so onward.
     
  5. manchesterraver

    manchesterraver Noisemaker

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    Similar stuff, Massive AU crashing Live 11
     
  6. ALKAWork

    ALKAWork Newbie

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    Hey @jackslab27 , thanks a lot for your advise. It worked for my Arturia plugins and Ozone 9. But certain Ozone plugins give me the following error when running through the last step: "error: The specified item could not be found in the keychain."

    In particular, I am trying to code sign Trash 2 VST 3 (64 bit). I have made sure to also reset permissions which I found was causing an issue for other code-signs, and show hidden-files to delete all 'Icon' files.

    Any idea how I can work around this?

    Thank you.
     
  7. MLooms

    MLooms Ultrasonic

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    For the VST to work, just create a folder under VST. Let's call it Izotope drag all Izotope VST's to it and use BatChmod and code design on that folder and that worked for me. I mostly use Audio units but needed once Massive to work as VST for some projekt and did the same and that worked for me no problematic of some sort. In my opinion no need to edit or to delete anything within the VST content. Just install CodeDesigner and BatChmod. I use Mojave 10.14.6
     
  8. peachplaysvinyl

    peachplaysvinyl Newbie

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    What do I do with BatchMod? Also, my audiounits are not working with Ozone 9 on a legit purchased copy of Ableton 11 running mac OS Catalina. The same Ozone 9 install worked on my old High Sierra machine though.
     
  9. clone

    clone Audiosexual

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    in BatChmod, load the file, then put a check mark in every box other than clear xattrs. (on the right). Not a "-" sign.

    You can also try Codesigner. https://roaringapps.com/app/codesigner. It can be helpful, but is also very easy to use. I almost never use Terminal to codesign.
     
  10. heero

    heero Newbie

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    Am I blind or is there no actual way to download the codesigner app at the link you provided? I even searched the source code for a download link and I see nothing... Aside from that you can't even find a download link on Google, even if you search Codesigner 0.9.4.

    Got a link?
     
  11. heero

    heero Newbie

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    Also, why create a new folder? Why not just codesign & batchmod the entire VST folder and solve all of your problems in one fell swoop?..
     
  12. clone

    clone Audiosexual

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    hrmph, I do not see it on there now either. check your pms.
     
  13. spncart

    spncart Producer

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    Can you send me CodeSigner 0.9.4 by PM? :)

    Unfortunately 0.9.4 is nowhere to be seen online anymore, and 0.9.3 (beta4) stopped working since July according to TNT.

    Much appreciated <3
     
  14. spncart

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    Is it possible to apply sudo codesign --force --deep --sign to many .vst at once? Or the entire VST folder/a dedicated sub-group of .vst files?

    Because it's really exhausting to go through Terminal each time and codesign each .vst one by one, like Ozone, Rx 9, Neutron etc. (it's 10 AU + 10 VST + 10 VST3 files to codesign each time...)

    Hopefully CodeSigner will help me out here because I've tried every other program - BatchMod, Ohana Permissions Reset 2, and DeQuarantine without success for this purpose.

    DeQuarantine doesn't seem to be using the sudo codesign --force --deep --sign command because when I tried on a .vst it didn't work, but then I applied it in Terminal and it worked.

    Hopefully CodeSigner 0.9.4 works on Big Sur/M1, that would be our last chance to make our lives easier...
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2021
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