Can't Obtain the Electronic Sound When Tuning Vocals

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  1. Mind the Gap

    Mind the Gap Noisemaker

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    Hello all,

    I do not have Antares, but I have Waves Tune and Waves Real Time Tune; and I use Logic Pro so I have the stock pitch corrector as well.

    No matter which one I tried using, I couldn't get that signature Auto-Tune effect.

    I keep the transition and speed the fastest, and still, I can't achieve this electronic, almost metallic/glassy, bright voice with distorted transitions.

    I know I can use EQ to make the vocals brighter, but that is not the case. I'd be much obliged to have your advices on certain uses of Waves Tune, etc., or if you let me know if there are plugins that will help me get these distorted note transitions.

    Cheers!
     
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  3. triggerflipper

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    I'm not familiar with Waves Tune very much, but are you sending midi notes in?
    Alternatively check out Manipulator by Polyverse for all kinds of robotic pitch manipulation.
     
  4. Smoove Grooves

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    Not really needed for the T-Pain effect.
    @Mind the Gap For the glissando effect you would usually just set the tuning and sensitivity relative to what you put in with the vocal, but if you can monitor it in realtime when you are doing your vocal take you may be able to sing out of tune enough to get the effect you want.
    Perhaps your vocal take was too precise for the setting you chose, is what I mean.
     
  5. SoundPorn

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    Waves Tune is actually rather too natural sounding to actually get the effect you're looking for.
    You could try to pitch you're vocals off key a couple semitones flat before sending it to Waves Tune tho so you make it work harder to put into key.

    The easiest thing to do would actually be just to get Waves Ovox which is more made for that sound.
     
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    Fast correction. Slap on several instances of Autotune (in serial) if you are not happy with one. You can even add different pitch correction plugins as they all have different flavors/colors.

    If not, I'm pretty sure there are about 100+ tutorials on Youtube how to get the desired effect.

    Edit: Are you sure you don't need vocoder, talkbox, Vocalsynth2, etc to get what you want. Is it just autotune?
     
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    As already said the more the voice differs from the desired note, the more the TPain effect is evident
    An effective way to obtain that effect is driving the autotune with midi.
    • On DAW, open audio track with voice, than insert the tune plugin
    • Open an empty midi track and connect output to audio plugin
    Now you can drive the voice tuning in real time by pressing the keys on midi controller
    The good part of the story is that you dont even need an audio file, you can directly sing in mic while autotuning the voice (just like the vocoder workflow).
     
  8. Mind the Gap

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    Hey. Thanks! I'll check the Manipulator.
     
  9. Mind the Gap

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    Hey. That's what I thought, the last thing, about preciseness I mean. And it was experimental for me -- and it may just be stupid to an experienced, but I tried tuning out the vocals by sending them to another key first, and then adding another Tune to get them back into the appropriate key, but it didn't work. And I don't know; maybe it doesn't work, or maybe I just couldn't make it work. I'll experiment a little bit more with the plugin on the vocals, certainly. Hope I'll do better.
     
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  10. Mind the Gap

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    I didn't try Ovox, but I will. Thanks for letting me know!
     
  11. starkid84

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    Make sure you have the key signature of the song is selected in auto-tune, as you wont get a strong tuning effect on the default Chromatic setting.

    Then set the retune speed to 0. if you dont get the T-pain effect with that, check that the plugin is active, and not in bypass.

    Also don't get a the sound of 'pitch correction' mixed up with the sound of a 'vocoder'. They can sound similar, but a vocoder is capable of far more complex sounds and effects that autotune, waves-tune cannot create.
     
  12. Mind the Gap

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    Hey! Yes, it's not just the auto-tune, I generally add more colour with pedals, distortion, saturation, using different compression plug-ins, etc. I have Vocalsynth2 but I'm still new to it. Perhaps I should see what I can do with it?

    And YouTube videos are helpful only to some extent. I'm now working on female vocals, and according to my little experience, that's another case; some things that work for male vocals do not readily apply to female voice. At least that seems to be the issue for me.

    Thanks for the comment.
     
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    This may or may not apply because I can't see the meter/s on your vocal channel/s. But make sure you're input signal is hitting the plugin hard enough for it to process it heavily like you want it to. If you have a low input such as -12dB or lower.. raise the input gain of the vocal clip itself to -6dB or higher for example. Then, lower the channel fader (output) to bring the loudness back down to what you need.
     
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