never there are always updates of plugins, plugins become "better", developers make paid updates, thats how software industry works

 

more? who in 2021 need MORE tools and sounds???
if installing and testing all plugins ans software for music/sound every day... when create music? in dreams?

 

with this amount of plugins today's music sounds worse, sterile and lacks of new ideas

 

1. what makes you think they arent?

2. you can make great tracks with free software - or even without a computer.

3. buying a lot of software... wont help much if your speakers suck, if you dont have the skills or the inspiration or simply the time.

4. stealing a lot of software... see number 3.

so i think, from a user perspective, there is not a big difference.

 

The importance of plugins is overrated, because the difference in sound between them is marginal. The difference in sound is much bigger when it comes to hardware. Anyway, having top plugins and top hardware will not make your uncreative POS song any better, whereas a great song will sound great with whatever you make it with.

I know a lot of people who make uncreative POS... and some who make pretty good stuff. What they have in common is plugins. They mostly use the same plugins, really. A guy whom I know that makes the best music [IMO] of the lot has the least plugins. A guy who has "5 tons of plugins" and is always hungry for more makes such crap it's unbelievable, but he makes popular crap... so he is as successful, if not more, professionally as the other guy.

What's interesting, though, is that the "5 ton plugins" guy uses about two dozen plugins which are pretty crappy, and the "2 dozen plugins" guy uses all of the plugins he has and they are chosen ones he's been using for about a decade now. He knows them to the core.

Just my 2p. Things I noticed.

 

Worse. People would just become plugin hoarders and always wanting the latest update and losing focus on making good music with what they have. It already happens.

 

Did you have any specific uncracked plugins in mind?

 

R2R work for free when it comes to cracking plugins.

They have or don't have employment, significant others, rugrats and pets outside of the scene.

Why do people always make it seem like there is something in it for R2R or any of the scene's top crackers outside of a challenge of cracking good DRM and keeping SW coders honest. If there were no plugins to crack I am certain they would find other ways to spend their time, maybe titty bars in Osaka and Tokyo will see a sharp increase in revenue. Who knows.

 

Not specific just everything in general.

It would be interesting to see if people will start using different plugins than each other or if everyone would still stick to the same tools even in a world where you could have any plugin instantly at your fingertips.

Will this cause new genres to emerge? Will people stick to same formula?

There's a lack of classic music nowadays, hits are industrialized and generic.

I think in this modern day producers just make the same sound as whatever is relevant because it is easily sold to people and they can easily mass produce this same sound. People are more focused on making money than to break the mold and change history.

If more plugins will not improve the standard of music made, what needs to be done? How can producers be innovative?

 

would be cool, there would be no one like me that waits for something to get cracked to install with and nevermore touch a button of it

So we would be more focused on producing than being like: wow I need this shit

 

at this time people have not all cracked instruments plugints, but how many really cool uncracked instruments? 2-3%? maybe 5%, max - 10%.
do you really think that people need these uncracked instruments to create different music?

 

not so sure about that.

 

maybe PEOPLE using their TALENT must improve the standard of music?

 

I feel like if plugins did a Patreon-style donation service they could potentially make more money than selling a plug for X amount of dollars. subscription models work well too.

 

we woud have saved our money on real gears/hardware

 

My music is now 2,834% better since the Big Wave and I even gained a whole 2 inches in length on my pecker (the girth is oddly the same though)! Thank you R2R! (And thank you @The Pirate for lending me your yardstick)

 

I think software can only do so much, what we need is a revolution in hardware from Audio to Video equipment

Right now you are looking at $9000 for a crappy entry cinema camera, and 10 year old audio technology pushing $3500 for an audio interface.

I remember what happened when they pulled DV away from people, took another 10 years to get back what we had already in 2001. The consumer is always using trickle down technology that the Pro market does not use anymore.

You can walk into a Store and buy a 4k LED TV that costs 5 times less than the cheapest semi pro 4 K camera

Seems someone is trying the same old game of "we allow you the delivery medium" but wont allow the actual recording medium.

It is the same reason why LED tv's do not have HDMI out, so you can't record the OTA streams.
Back in 2005 many CRT tv's still had Video out to daisy chain tv sets.

 

We should separate composing/arranging from mixing/producing/recording

 

You bought a new strap-on? I'm in town. I came as soon as I heard.

 

Let's forget for a while that "what sounds best" is subective and pretend that there is a best synth, a best compressor, a best eq, a best distortion, a best reverb, etc... The simply fact that a person have access to these tools will not help that person to become a better producer or engineer.
Take myself as an example, I decided to give Softube a try some weeks ago, and have processed some sounds with it till I'm happy with the results, after that I just re-mixed all of them but with the tools I was used to, all the sounds sounded best to me with the tools I already had and knew well. Did the same thing with the synths, took a preset I like from Monoment Bass and in less than 2 minutes I just created a best sounding preset from scratch using Serum, that is my go to when it comes to synthesis.
The point is, it's not about the tools you have it's about how well you know the tools you have, and master any tool takes time.

Not even close to reality, let's pick another abstract situation, both you and I have Nexus with the same exact presets, one for bass, one for pad, one for chords, one for lead, etc... And we are limited to the same mixing tools as well. Now we both create a track on the same genre. Lets go even further and pick the same scale too. I bet our tracks will sound extremely different from each other, not only in terms of composition but our mixing will sound different as well. And that's what makes music so funny, there's no right or wrong and people have different tastes and experiences.

 

Last edited: Jan 21, 2021