New Macs shown, Apple Silicon is on the roll, thoughts?

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  1. shinbeth

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    Fake news.
     
  2. Moonlight

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    There are also benchmarks which show that the m1 has a lower multicore performance.
    The question is how log can you drive a m1 until it get to hot and throttle.
     
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    do your own research, it is widly discussed on the official apple community....before acting like a blind lemming
     
  4. shinbeth

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    Triggered :)
     
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    Simple : it throttle in less than 1 minut
    So EVERYTHING related to LONG exports is dead : audio, video, photo ...

    M1 can surf the net and do Excel very fast :rofl:
     
  6. shinbeth

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    Woah poor people hating life because they can't afford a Mac what a life this must be lmao :bow:
     
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    Wow the hate for mac is real! Especially from people who don’t even use them ! Lol

    Meanwhile I can produce on my M1 MacBook Air for 10 hours non stop in Ableton at super low buffer sizes while having 10 apps open.

    These macs are really awesome, light weight, and very fast. As for the throttling.... who in their right mind would try to Render professional 8K Raw video in davinci resolve with a $1200 laptop? That is a very unfair test. Not even a $1200 windows laptop can do that either without melting the plastic around it or throttling itself.

    That test in davinci resolve is really odd to be honest. My Windows workstation with a 2080 RTX can struggle with 8K footage wit my heavy grading in davinci resolve and that graphics card cost $800? Almost the price of the Mac mini lol.
     
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    which audio interface do you have ? How low are the latencies please ?

    She encodes 4k actually, but I neither do that on a notebook, any many other wont do teh same mistake again after the recent self destructing Mac Book Pros in past.
     
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    I think that argument doent count anymore since the current available M1 Macs are quite cheap actually
     
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    I’m using internal core audio most of the time!

    but my USB C presonus interface works great with it.

    Right now I opened up a project in Ableton 10 with 40 tracks Audio/Instrument all with FX. Some of these tracks even have Acustica Plugins with the Pre amp sections engaged - Acustica are know for their notorious CPU consumption.

    I’m pressing play with no dropouts at 256 Buffer size at 48 Sample rate, with an overall latency of 9.08ms.

    All this on a MacBook Air M1 8GB Ram :)

    Here’s a list of of the plugins and their developers used in this specific project:

    izotope
    Valhalla
    Acustica
    Fab filter
    Xfer serum
    IK multimedia (works surprisingly well)
    Max for live effects from third party developers
    Apulsoft
    Arturia
    Wavesfactory
    Voxengo
     
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    I'm not mac hater : i'm building NOW my next hackintosh.
    Just face the truth : M1 is a FAIL
    Supposed to be ultra powerful ... but less than 1 minut.
    Like a rabbit ...
     
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    To me this purchase was a success :) not a Fail so it might just be a personal thing at the end of the day, as it is meeting all my expectations and also exceeded them with the amount of battery life, and single core performance it provides which is very important for audio.

    Xcode builds faster on M1 that intel too! That is huge for developers who are on the move.
     
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    That's just entry level, plus slight upgrade with 1TB and 16GB is 2'000 USD. Cheaper, not quite cheap vs PCs. And M1X 16" with full upgrade will probably reach up to 4'000+ USD. But yeah at least entry-level cheaper, for once. Well done Apple.
     
  14. shinbeth

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    It's the best release ever made by Mac (I wasn't always happy so far, lots of stuff that were missed out, and not powerful enough for me). 99.99% of the reviews also say it. The new architecture makes it twice as powerful vs. Intel. M1 is already a beast, M1X will be even more impressive.
     
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    Yeah poor people will never have the chance to buy something from this Mac dude.:rofl:So they keep hating their lives because "hey what do you know, no Mac no joy"...
    But you love life because you can afford what "Mac released", but meh it's not powerful enough for someone such as yourself who "fucks women as a hobby for free" as you recently stated, right? Because perhaps your 4track trap beats need at least 32 cores to be realized by Hollywood standards? But hey you are "not poor" so i have the solution for you, buy four M1 Macs and do the job, end of story. Let those poor peeps eat their heart out of jealousy haha. And Gods forbid, by all means you are NOT a racist self absorbed prick, no sir, not at all.
    Cheers
     
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    @Pipotron3000
    I recently got my hands on the M1 Macbook Pro/16gb ram. My cousin bought one for Xmas. Salty price to say the least. M1 is impressive at first, but after a while the whole thing feels rushed and not optimized to run heavy tasks even on soft that runs natively. The one single fan tries to do its best but fails to cope with tasks like heavy rendering even at QHD res when your timeline has enough (but not a ton) FX on it. To be really fair though, the Morgonaut lady with the terrible accent fails to mention that DaVinci Resolve is not absolutely optimized to run on M1 Macs, Resolve 17.1 that supports BigSur is a beta version, so the comparison probably is not 100% accurate.
    On another subject, for all the fanboys who went on to tell me this and that, you guys get serious for fks sake please, Big Sur calls home, tested and verified -period. With this amount of outgoing traffic, it should be called Big Brother lol.
    So, imho, this doesn't deserve the Pro moniker although tbh this is my thought for all the MacbookPro laptops of the recent 5-6 years. The last Mac Pro tower on the other hand was/is a Pro machine in every way possible, although it "came too late for the party" if you know what i mean :)
    I'm quite sure though that the Apple ARM cpu architecture has a bright future, especially if implemented on a tower comp with proper cooling rather than a thin laptop, adequate amount of ram and more cores, all of which are features expected in future Macs and if done correctly it may have a huge impact on the hardware industry.
    As it is atm, first gen M1 laptops, are niche lifestyle machines with more focus on easy everyday tasks executed really fast rather than heavy professional workloads. Just like their iPad counterparts actually :)
    Cheers
     
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  17. shinbeth

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    It's called white affluent privilege bro, let me enjoy it! xD
     
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    Geekbenchmarks and 10'000 tutorials available on YouTube just show the contrary, looks like you fall into the PC owners/butthurt category too xD
     
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    :deep_facepalm: :thumbsdown: :trashing::trolls::wtf:
    I gotta hand it to you, i've seen many pc dudes trolling but not mac fanboys. But wth, i'll try once more.
    What part didn't you understand, i tested the m1 Macbook. You obviously didn't from what you say. But hey, go on and make music & video with geekbench lol. Anyway, i did say at first the M1 is impressive, didn't i.
    So fyi, first of all, my TB UAD didn't work. Neither did the Presonus Quantum 2626. Ditto for the Antelope Discrete 4. I had to connect a Steinberg UR44 i had somewhere in a drawer to have some kind of low latency audio with Logic. Some strictly audio sessions were amazing with like 500 fx plugs open at ~35-40% cpu. The problems arise when you start loading hungry cpu instruments which go through Rosetta2. Most of them load fine but not all and sometimes when loading instruments you get some crazy spikes in the cpu meter. Nothing from NI works. Notably u-he Diva and Serum worked fine through Rosetta2. Although 7 Divas took the M1 cpu really high and i could hear the fan buzzing loud. This one is the defacto downside of the machine. Cooling should be better, it looks like they didn't push their test machines to their limits for real. Perhaps in an attempt to show off keeping the machine really slim, i really can't say why. It's widely known through employee testimonies, that Apple is divided in factions so some people may undermine some others in the same product line work project. Still, this last one is a far fetched theory, one that i don't endorse.
    One thing about the M1 MacbookPro that is impressive hands down, is the battery life. I am very sure when software is fully compatible with these cpus, it will be the next favorite laptop for live shows, but of course Macs have been traditionally the fav musicians' live machine. For the moment the M1 is quite stable for a first gen machine that runs most -if not all- of the third party soft through Rosetta2. It still has lots of compatibility probs to be sorted, and when its pushed it does throttle, albeit to its defense slightly more gently than the 2019 Intel Macbook Pro. BigSur sucks for the most part and worse than Catalina did, so end users will have to endure Apple's absurd intrusive policy, to enjoy what good macOS can give them. Power users that know their way around Terminal will have a better time with the machine for sure, although not everything is smooth as promised, but i'll leave this for another time.
    Laters :D
     
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  20. OBKenobi

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    By going solo Apple is competing against Intel, AMD, Nvidia, and ARM's other chips. M1 doesn't do better than last year's Intel and AMD CPUs in real world performance on the desktop, it's better for low power usage on tiny laptops. The M1 is going to get left behind, Apple's going to need an M2 that's geared more towards the desktop and demanding apps AND keep it price competitive. The typical consumer won't see a difference because they never use those demanding apps so any cheap CPU that runs Windows or Android can beat Apple and it's overpriced hardware for the fake news market. I hate Microsoft, Apple and Google equally. They're all a bunch of assholes really. They're not your friends, they look for ways to extort money and steal your data, so don't think I am taking sides in any of this, I'm talking about strictly hardware, Apple is overpriced for the mainstream market without any significant advantage the average person will notice.
     
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