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  1. SineWave

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    It depends from which angle you're looking at it. :rofl: Yeah 2:1. :) We don't want to expand them. :wink: Damn those basses... :crazy:
     
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    On the other hand sometimes for some music I think a ratio of 1:-infinite would benefit the song. [​IMG]
     
  3. samsome

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    only the kick sample selection at 0:32 seconds throws me a bit off.....if that was better i wouldn't have noticed anything about it being unprofessional
     
  4. Smoove Grooves

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    Ridiculous comment. The opening filtered/EQd kick is a creative choice, and if this track doesn't sound like the op may have worked professionally ever, and this wasn't mixed & mastered well, then you have no idea what the word professional means, imo.
    If somebody makes music for a living, and it is their main income, they are a professional.
    You do not have to like what the professional puts out, but it won't change their professional status.
     
  5. samsome

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    how would u know, have u studied formally mixing/mastering? :X
     
  6. Smoove Grooves

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    Yes. But this is not relevant to what I am saying.
    It's a language thing.
    Do you really think this sounds "unprofessional"?
    I doubt you do. And least of all for the choice of kick in one place, which was contextual to the track anyway.
    So, imo, you were listening subjectively.
     
  7. samsome

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    i meant its professional, sorry my wording might seemed out of place. I meant the only unprofessional thing i noticed after listening for a minute was just that kick sounded a bit weak

    and i'm jealous i need to study formally as well somehow i think
     
  8. Sarutobi

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    I have decent monitors, I guess I don't know what to listen for yet.
    I'll fix the low-mids right. Thank you!
     
  9. Sarutobi

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    I have literally never heard this in any of the courses. Thank you so much I'll do that right away!
     
  10. SineWave

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    One more thing regarding this technique: use saturation or an overdrive plugin slightly if you want to make the bass sound more clear/brighter. That's especially useful for dark basses. Something like Maxxbass works great for that.

    200-300Hz is always good to get slightly down in either kick, or a bass, depending on what you want to hear clearer in that area. Always start with cutting frequencies. <-- this one they've probably told you. :wink:
     
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  11. Sarutobi

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    Thank yu so much for the feedback. means a lot!
     
  12. Sarutobi

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    I actually thought sidechain was enough when it comes to kick and bass
     
  13. joem

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    to me sounds like a leveling issue little tips.
    drums: kick open hat clap then closed hats etc underneath primerially clap/snare should be 2 db below your kick open hi hat in the middle of the two, so for example say kicks at -6db snare should be around - 8 and open hat at around - 7 to - 6.5 depending on sample choice. Closed hats underneath clap/snare so say around -7.5 Percloopsunderneath them them so around the - 7.5 mark. (group stuff on to single channels soits easeyur to mix) vocals should be the loudest part of the track i tend to put them around a db above my kick. Vocals i like to have as the most dominat part ofmy trackso around half to a fulldb above my kick so in this stuation at -5 db.
    Bass: I generally like to have that at around -9 to-10 db and have my sub either sitting either a db higher or db lower than my mid bass depending on sound choices. leads go underneath them so say -10 to -11 chords pads etc underneth them so around - 12 to- 13.
     
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    For starters, I think this is a really good effort. No need to 'loose it' :) But music production can be psychologically demanding (at least it is in my experience).

    2 things come to mind:
    1. Bass/low end is missing
    2. Claps/hi-hats are too thin sounding in some parts (particularly intro); may be too low volume or something with the frequency

    Kick sounds fine to me.

    I'm wondering: is your room adequately sound treated, and your sound calibrated? In my experience many mixing issues originate from there.

    My room is sound treated but it still has a huge +8db bump at 120 hz and a big -6db hole at 500 hz (see picture below). So before calibration I was EQ'ing those room errors resulting in mixes that sounded thin (I carved the 120 hz away) and boxy (I bumped the 500 hz mid-range way too much). In other words: if you don't have a flat frequency response in your room you're EQ'ing your room, not the song.

    Screenshot 2020-12-21 115552.jpg

    I use Sonarworks (+ calibrated mike that comes with it) to calibrate my monitors. I also use Dsoniq, which emulates a professional studio through headphones. Made a world of difference and it's probably the only way to mix correctly if you're not in a professional studio.
     
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  15. FrankWhite23

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    It sounds really good on air pods but usually when that happins you got some major low end issues.. I can check it when I get home.. but I can just tell its gonna need some cuts possibly some low end rumble in the lower mid frequency
     
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    I think, you may read some good books on mixing.
    For mixing, Bobby Owsinki's Lynda courses are cool. There are many, on Groove3, Puremix and MixwiththeMasters that will help you. Great mixing engineers, learnt mixing by observing other great mixing engineers mix in real time and that is how knowledge used to get passed on from one mixing engineer to an assistant who would later become a great mixing engineer.
    So, you can get that kind of feel from Puremix and MixwiththeMasters videos.
    Mymixlab is also great.
    Most Youtube videos are actually pretty dangerous these days, unless the uploader is credible.

    I actually love reading and so, I am attaching the name of the books, that I believe will help you. Capturegg.JPG
     
  17. Smoove Grooves

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    Well, no. The expression "sidechain" can relate to a few different techniques which involve a sidechain.
    One of them is 'ducking', or triggering a compressor with a keyed sidechain input.
    Frequencies can also be related to a sidechain technique.
    A sidechain can be used for many things.
     
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    Totally off the topic, but it's great to see your name pop up again. It's been ages, buddy. Good to have you back.
     
  19. Catalyst

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    :rofl:
    Yeah, the upper bound of a ratio is always represented first. Same as when denoting harmonic relationships. For example, the octave frequency relationship of any note is represented as 2:1. An octave above will always be twice the frequency in Hertz.
    Thanks a lot brother, really appreciate you saying so. It's good to be back and it feels even better with these new upgrades. :winker::mates:
     
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    You can find all of the books on @sistersite and @torrentsite but if anyone wants, I can share my whole book collection as one zip file. :wink:
     
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