Mate! You're too late! Dealt with/acknowledged by OP now.

Sometimes. Not always. This is what I meant by not applying the same groove template to everything! Because then there becomes NO groove!
Drums and bass in electronic dance genres; yes. But not necessarily all instruments of the mix!

Again, even more so, definitely not always in this example.

Usually I'd agree, so that then we have a reference for the hi-hat to groove around.
But also what you said is not sacrosanct at all.
With the Hed Kandi stuff I mentioned above, we would often work on a one bar groove, with quantization that is related per bar, too.
So the off-beat hi-hat will bounce, and the push/pull between that and the kick will keep you on the edge of your seat and you won't know why!
Also, with (or without any) groove on kick and snare in relation to the click track, we can have the same one bar loop for kick and snare, but the hats pattern may be 4, 8, or 16 bars of subtly changing groove quantization.

 

Mate! I don't think it's an applied groove swing quantization, I think they are moving some parts off by hand so it's not even where a quantization would be.

Agree, but I meant really just to the skip/ghost notes.

Sounds good!

 

I know this. And OP has said it! So you are right.
All I originally said, before the screen shot, was that it sounded like misuse of groove quantization.
Also "swing" is not part of groove quantization per se. But you know this.

 

If you use the mpc swing quantization it moves notes slightly off grid creating swing.
There is a swing function in FLStudio and also a quantizer. They both move notes slightly off grid.
In your terminology quantization and then moving notes around by hand comes under the same term of misuse of groove quantization?

 

I know. That word relates to MPC, yes. I see what you meant now! In House there were only one or two swing rates/percentages that we would use!
In Logic we also have Strength.
Sorry, I thought you meant swing as in swing! Not the Linn swing! (I've done session with jazzers, so swing is a thing!)
By misuse of groove quantization, I just meant whatever we were hearing in the OP's track!
Which I imagined was some very late stuff, considering the early claps. Or some rates (swing settings!) that were not amicable!
I was actually looking at it the wrong way round.

I've seen some time-saving, not so soulful producers who will apply the same groove quant to almost everything, but then obviously always have to go in and move stuff by hand.
Then I've seen people who use straight, original quant on everything, but only use the MPC quant on kick, snare and hat.
Because bass usually seems to want to be a few ticks later than your kick, you see.
Sometimes we'd just get all the tracking done, print the tracks, and then shift the audio forward or back.
But that was old school times!
And oh my, doesn't EQ affect our perception of timing! lol

 

You are good to have in this community.
Yes that was my confusion.
In FLStudio when people talk about quantisation we think quantizer which can also load mpc % templates, change velocities, other settings that even adjust those so a normal groove template can be a lot different than it's default, where in other programs I think they might be seperate. So misuse of quantisation can lead people in FLStudio thinking how they are using quantizer.
Also the Swing feature in FLStudio although it moves things off time it doesn't show it in the midi.
But they might be using quantizer on some things, plus the swing and then also moving midi by hand on others which can make it more off time.
And also the early claps isn't helping. I also think they might have a loop that also isn't synced on time in there as well and all of these are combining.
Fun stuff!

 

Can't add anything to what has been said, partly because I don't understand some of it lol.

The track bounces along nicely although to my ears the bass seems to disappear. One small nitpicking observation, at 59sec (just after the explosion sound) there is a click. Maybe it's a glitch on soundcloud?

 

This thread is like Beat Making 101 lol.