Guess the Plugin with No Avenger Part III ;-) Analogue Emulation Summing

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    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    About time you clean your ears and pull your systems up again. :yes:

    I made a small part, exported the audio and added preamps to the separate tracks and the master out.
    • without preamps for reference
    • Acustica Audio Amethyst, Honey and Magenta with individual Input adjustment
    • AA Camel Lin 1 Input +6
    • AA Camel Lin 1 with individual Input according to the source level (roughly)
    • AA Camel Lin 3-15 with the same individual Input
    • AA Sand Line, Bus and Custom, mono for mono sources, stereo for stereo sources, unity gain (=no adjustments)
    • PA plugin with different TMT groups and the same saturation and Input for all
    Of course this is not the order of the tracks.

    The question is, what do you hear and think of the results? Do you even recognize the untreated file?

    Good luck and have fun.

    https://fidbak.audio/na/player/9832575766c5/7cd1adac9d79
     
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    g = without preamps
    e= sand
    f= amethys etc
    d=pa

    the rest idk
     
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    A:Camel
    B: Camel
    C: Camel
    D: No preamps
    E: PA
    F: Amethyst, Honey and Magenta
    G: Sand

    :guru:
     
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    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    Err, close, almost, sadly ... none, sorry.
     
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    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    Wow, good, only three wrong and four correct!
     
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    From a to g i dont have a fucking clue!
     
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    what are you legends even talking about. imma already commiting suicide now (again) he he he he he he
     
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    KungPaoFist Audiosexual

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    If this is correct, did you really do this by ear?? Very impressive!
     
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    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    We were both joking. He with the list, I with the Agree rating. [​IMG]
     
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    mild pump milk Russian Milk Drunkard

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    H: Kazrog True Iron through Fuse Audio Labs Flywheel with a small touch of Fielding DSP Reviver and Inflator.
    X: Oversampled 128-bit quadraple precision 0.01dB Gain/MakeUp boosting, offline render, of course.
    Y: Backward Anti-Saturator (working in a way to remove any saturation).
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    That was close. [​IMG]
     
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    sum D is untreated?
     
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    :no:
     
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    Preferred A then F the most
     
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    D : high end balanced, bottom is tight
    G : high end balanced, bottom is broader
    My two favs
    Probably Acustica Audio Amethyst, Honey Magenta AND Sandline

    I don't like others at all : too RAW, aggressive transients

    F untreated

    I will see if i lost my ears :wink:
     
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    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    This statement is at least correct. :winker:
     
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    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, that's two of three.
     
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    KungPaoFist Audiosexual

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    Do you try to lower input gains to adjust these kinds of things? I think that might help.

    It's not possible to distinguish these because line levels are subtle and vary by actual channels from the consoles (everything including Plugin Alliance). They are designed to be used individually on separate channels in order to sum like the console.
     
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    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm not sure if he's talking about the pluggies themselves or my audio files.

    Kung are you ok? [​IMG] Was my phrasing bad? What do you think I have done?
    Means, channels, aka sounds. I do have a vague idea of what summing means. :winker:
     
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