trading stock..........any experts here?

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  1. samsome

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    i was thinking to open an etoro account

    is there a safe way not to lose money.........like arbitrage kind of thing? or not possible?
     
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  3. Coronazi

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    Yup - stash the cash in a 'Advanced Jazz Techniques' folder on a shelf in your studio... :like:
     
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    Not me, but people for me.
    I gave the concept.
    It goes like this :
    https://www.youtube.com/user/philakone1/videos

    I give you a tip (no financial advice)
    The lockdowns will stay.
    Make a company that delivers fresh organic food that delivers it from door to door.
    Put a flyer of your company in each hausehold mailbox FISICALLY, so they can read and call you.
    There you go. next year

    "The only thing you need to fear of is fear itself"
    A saying is...
    Money lays on the streets... It's the trick how to pick it up.
     
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  7. Coronazi

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    Do you know what the best way is to rob a bank?
    When you own it.
     
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  9. realitybytez

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    nothing that actually makes money is completely safe. if your risk tolerance is very low, you better stick to cds. if you are under the age of 40 then you should be able to tolerate some risk. one of the least risky investments that gives a nice return is the vanguard 500 index fund (voo), which is an etf that employs an indexing investment approach designed to track the performance of the s&p 500 Index, a widely recognized benchmark of u.s. stock market performance that is dominated by the stocks of large u.s. companies. . over a ten year period, voo has an average annual return of 13.7%. this is probably one of the best buy and hold investments you can make. but you have to hold it. don't try to exit when the market is down and go back in when the market is up. you will not be able to time it correctly and you will lose money. there will be a few bad years scattered throughout the extended holding period, but overall you will do well.

    if you are willing to take on more risk, there are many people who are willing to help you (for a fee) to select individual stocks that they believe will outperform the market. most of these people are wrong almost as often as they are right, but the theory is that the ones that are right will make a lot more money than the ones that are wrong will lose.
     
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    whatever works for you.
     
  11. Rando

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    Start with a demo account and learn for a few months before jumping in, use low or no leverage at first, study charts zoom out to atleast 3-6 months checkout tradingview to get more tips
     
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    Jumping in for what?
    Who owns the crypto mining?
     
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    Now here comes the funny part (this is epic)
    Who and where do you think that all the crypro currency network is going to flow on?
    Can i hold 100 bitcoin in my hand? What is the weight?
    Soon everyone that "thought" that had made it, wil be hunted.
    Crypto = Controll
    Virtual, not physical currency.
     
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    Now who are the money changers? Who is the inventor of the Crypto changer :)
     
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    If you are somehow not trolling, I only have one thing to recommend. Do not get your investment advice from an internet music forum or youtube videos. Commodities and currency trading can be lucrative if you have a sense of timing but they are also extremely volatile. Educate yourself properly before committing to any risky activity with your finances weather that be a Grey mare running the in the third race of the day or exchange markets, the risk is the same.
     
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    he never once mentioned crypto he said stonks, crypto is another story and most of china owns crypto mining imo
     
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    My advice is to pick a stock you really believe in. Do plenty of research into their interim reports etc. Now is a good time to pick up some bargains as a lot of Covid-fear has created some buying opportunities/ undervalued stocks but you have to be careful you don't pick a turkey. Try not to accidentally become a 'day trader' as it's easy to lose a lot of cash quickly unless you have the knack for it.

    ...and finally the most IMPORTANT tip: ONLY invest what you can afford to lose!
     
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    I don't really think that nowadays you have to be an expert in order to trade stocks, especially Crypto. What I want to say by this statement is that now it’s way easier to buy a stock, a cryptocurrency than back in the time. Those times when you had to call the guys, brokers I mean, and they would suggest you what to invest in and what to aspire for. Now, there are companies that can do all of that at a time and you don’t even have to pay a lot of money for it. It’s insiderlearningnetwork.com, for example, and there are more companies like this. You just give them your Bitcoins, for example, and after a time you will have more bitcoins on your account.
     
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  19. realitybytez

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    crypto is not a stock. just sayin.
    stocks are ownership in real companies that generate revenue and (hopefully) make a profit
    crypto is a digital form of fiat money. it has no purpose other than to hold the value that "investors" put in. it doesn't generate revenue or profit. it just is.
     
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    Kind of, sort of. Yes, you can generate income from the dividend of your share(s) when a company issues such, but the share itself does not generate revenue or profit itself unless it is sold short and which is pure speculation which most people following the GameStop drama of recent have witnessed, and or speculation that a stock will climb higher by demand...the by low sell high scenario. It is the company that the shares have been issued by that generate profit or that difference in the buy and sell price. However, profit or loss really no longer have any basis in reality as companies invest in their own shares to drive up the prices in order to reap insane bonuses for the principals of the corporation. Again, look to GameStop to see a company on the verge of bancruptcy's share go through the roof. And then if course there is this bit of nuttiness...

    Preferred stock represents some degree of ownership in a company but usually doesn't come with the same voting rights. (This may vary depending on the company.) With preferred shares investors are usually guaranteed a fixed dividend forever. This is different than common stock, which has variable dividends that are never guaranteed. Another advantage is that in the event of liquidation preferred shareholders are paid off before the common shareholder (but still after debt holders). Preferred stock may also be callable, meaning that the company has the option to purchase the shares from shareholders at anytime for any reason (usually for a premium).

    Some people consider preferred stock to be more like debt than equity. A good way to think of these kinds of shares is to see them as being in between bonds and common shares. (If you don't understand bonds make sure also to check out our bond tutorial.)

    Different Classes of Stock
    Common and preferred are the two main forms of stock; however, it's also possible for companies to customize different classes of stock in any way they want. The most common reason for this is the company wanting the voting power to remain with a certain group; hence, different classes of shares are given different voting rights. For example, one class of shares would be held by a select group who are given ten votes per share while a second class would be issued to the majority of investors who are given one vote per share.

    When there is more than one class of stock, the classes are traditionally designated as Class A and Class B. Berkshire Hathaway (ticker: BRK), the company of Warren Buffett (one of the greatest investors of all time), has two classes of stock. The different forms are represented by placing the letter behind the ticker symbol in a form like this: "BRKa, BRKb" or "BRK.A, BRK.B".

    So to make a long story short, the stock market for the common investor is a fucking jungle. They are not privy to the back room deals and ALWAYS take it up the ass when shit gets real. My dad was a vice president of the largest bond trading firm in the 60's and 70's and filled me in on all the dirty details. Big money bilks the small and rides on it's back with a carrot and a stick to eak out as much stupid money as it can. Buyer beware. The crash is coming big time.
     
  21. josiemama

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    I've been doing stocks for years, if anyone is serious about getting into them I'd love to help them out. I have a completely free discord where I help people out, but you don't necessarily have to join it. Just PM me if you want to, though or if you simply have any stock related questions I'd be happy to help you out in getting started!
     
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