Presonus Studio One Version 5.1 Update (October 20, 2020)

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  1. playtime

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    New version v5.1.0 build 61423 available in your account :)

    New features and improvements:

    Recording and Mixing
    ● Retrospective Recording
    ● Track/Channel search and filter options
    ● Bypass option for Gain Envelopes
    ● Drag & Drop send chains Arrangement and Editing
    ● Improved presentation of Global Tracks
    ● Secondary Timeline Ruler option
    ● New combined Signature Track (time and key signature changes)
    ● Transfer key signature events using ARA
    ● Global Tracks in Editors (Marker, Arranger, Chords, Signature) ● Score Printing
    ● Score View: Key Signature Changes
    ● Score View: Staff Presets ● Score View: Staff Settings
    ● Score View: Alternative views
    ● Score View: Noteheads selection
    ● [Impact XT] Colorized events in Pattern Editor

    Live Performance
    ● Edit indicator for Patches
    ● External instrument support for Patches

    Plug-ins and Instruments

    ● [Ampire and Pedalboard] New Compressor and Gate FX pedals
    ● Drag & Drop FX pedals between Ampire and Pedalboard

    General
    ● Alternative views for Instrument Rack
    ● Improved ATOM integration: ▪ 4 Banks of assignable Encoders ▪ 4 Banks of assignable Pad Commands ▪ Scales in keyboard mode ▪ Open Note FX editor option ▪ Replace instrument option
    ● [macOS] Switchable hardware graphics acceleration
    ● [Windows] High-DPI scaling option re-enabled
    ● [Windows] Improved user experience with consumer-grade non-ASIO audio devices

    New commands

    ● Edit o Show Empty Track
    o Hide Empty Tracks
    o Show Tracks with Events under Cursor
    o Hide Tracks with Events under Cursor
    o Show Tracks with Events in Loop Range
    o Hide Tracks with Events in Loop Range
    o Show Soloed Tracks
    o Hide Soloed Tracks
    o Show Muted Tracks
    o Hide Muted Tracks
    o Show Disabled Tracks
    o Hide Disabled Tracks
    o Show Enabled Tracks
    o Hide Enabled Tracks
    o Show Instrument Tracks
    o Hide Instrument tracks
    o Show Audio Tracks
    o Hide Audio Tracks
    o Show Selected Tracks
    o Hide Selected Track
    o Show All Tracks
    o Undo Visibility
    o Redo Visibility

    ● Audio
    o Bypass Gain Envelope
    o Extract Key Signature from Event
    ● Event
    o Extend by Grid
    o Shorten by Grid
    ● Console o Find Channel
    o Filter Channel
    ● Track o Find Track
    o Filter Track
    o Recall Retrospective Recording
    ● View
    o Swap Ruler Formats
    o Open Secondary Ruler

    The following issues have been fixed:
    ● [Windows] flickering play cursor at 175% scaling
    ● [Windows] Irregular grid lines at 125%, 150% and 175% scaling
    ● [macOS] Note event vs. audio timing off grid at high buffer settings
    ● [macOS HiSierra] When pinning Soothe 2, all other plug-in windows are stalled
    ● [macOS] Graphical performance degrades when scrolling collapsed folder
    ● [macOS] No redrawing of icons when switching resolution
    ● [macOS] Text not clipped in browser tile
    ● [macOS] Unwanted wrapping in certain text boxes
    ● [macOS] Laggy graphics with certain 3rd party plug-ins
    ● [Browser] Can't delete certain custom folders
    ● [Browser] Crash on expanding certain track folders
    ● [Browser] Selecting multiple items in Tree View doesn't work on first click w/ Shift
    ● [Mixer] Monitoring live input from bus no longer possible
    ● [Mixer] Multi Instrument primary/master channel name is not retained
    ● [Mixer] Pipeline XT not passing audio when inserted to Listen Bus
    ● [Mixer] Solo safe in aux channels forces realtime render when bouncing a virtual instrument track
    ● [Mixer] Keyboard shortcut "add gain trim" always opens 1st insert slot
    ● [Presence XT Editor] Decimal shift when entering tune values
    ● [Presence XT Editor] Wrong conversion when entering negative 'Tune' values
    ● [AutoFilter] Leftover TODO tooltip
    ● [Impact XT] Sample offset settings are not recalled
    ● [Exchange] .ioconfig "installs" to default "Download" folder
    ● [Note FX] Arpeggiator chokes up in certain situations
    ● Audio miscalculation on extreme tempo edits
    ● Audition is suspended too early on recording with Auto Punch
    ● Automation may migrate to a different track
    ● Can't create audio track above a folder track via drag and drop
    ● Can't duplicate a transformed Instrument Track
    ● Certain original audio cannot be dragged into arrangement
    ● Delay compensation / latency not updated unless the plugin is reset manually
    ● Duplicating automation sometimes not working properly
    ● Event text position is odd on high vertical zoom levels
    ● Export mixdown is longer than loop range when an AUX channel is present
    ● Graphic ghost and font space issue when event badges are disabled
    ● In Step Recording mode, cursor does not advance after input notes when the Tempo Track contains nodes
    ● Last track in the Arrangement cannot be resized if it has been minimized
    ● Listen bus metering options are following audio track metering options
    ● Misc 3rd party plug-in window resize issues (Kilohearts, Melda Productions, Waves...)
    ● Noise when loading a song w/ Ampire when Dropout Protection is set to Maximum
    ● Open folder range selection disappears on copy/paste command
    ● Potential crash when editing audio bend markers
    ● Second external device plugged-in is not auto-detected sometimes
    ● Context menu reacts differently to mouse clicks on macOS and Windows
    ● "Stop at Marker" is being ignored in certain situations
    ● Unwanted behavior when copying sections w/ enclosed automation
    ● Updating an Instrument+FX Preset creates .preset file instead of .instrument 5 PreSonus Studio On
     
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  3. Ko

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    this is amazing!
     
  4. scarsstiches

    scarsstiches Producer

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    Badass update. Hoping the slight overheating issue in 5.0.2 has been solved.

    Love this daw, there’s something about it that makes me feel right at home.
     
  5. Karate Grownup

    Karate Grownup Producer

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    Really good update as for such a minor version. And almost all bugs got fixed. Cool.
     
  6. ozguney

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    I hope one day they will change the color of the DAW. I think it's too depressing..
     
  7. usernone

    usernone Producer

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    Why don't you customize the colours yourself via the options menu / appearance if you need to be cheered up? Works wonders.
     
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  8. EddieXx

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    im still at 4, im not updating until a sale, since i dont really need the new stuff.

    but i was wondering about the bug-fixes, does presonus let previous versions to receive bug-fixes?
     
  9. quadcore64

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    Really impressed with improvement to sound engine. Not so impressed with VST handling. Half of VSTs not showing up. Retail & free version.
    No Plugin Alliance, iZotope, TDR, Overloud, Sound Radix, Harrison, DMG Audio, Celemony, Wavesfactory, Nektar, discoDSP or A.O.M.

    Reset blacklist, restarted & rescanned. No joy in mudville tonight.......

    Solved!
    Seems that Studio One only scans one level deep for some reason. Also had to move VST3 plugins from external drive to default VST3 system folder.
     
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  10. Blue

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    Does this version bring some cpu improvement over the v5.0.1?

    The listening bus is a brillant idea,but I don't understand why they don't give the possibility to have as many listening busses as the user wants..
     
  11. quadcore64

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    Yes! Should have said 'Core' engine instead of sound. Early stages of comparing same project between Reaper, Pro Tools & S1.

    So far there are slight differences between S1 & Reaper in CPU usage (18% peak vs. 24%peak), and rendered mixdown using the same files, settings and plugins. Not complete cancelling out when phase is flipped but strangely, no perceivable artifacts when played together. Loud clear & punchy.

    The next step will be to recreate the session totally from scratch in S1 & then Pro Tools. Then a true one-to-one comparison can be done with rendered mixdowns.

    Also curious to see if S1 can handle Bettermaker EQ232D without noticable smearing like Pro Tools (proper PDC).
     
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  12. Blue

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    If that's 24% vs 18% in reaper,that's acceptable.That was roughly the same difference with S1 v4 vs Reaper.
    With the v5.01 I had cpu spikes with a dozen of audio tracks,with maybe only 5 plugins.I had to bounce absolutely everything.I left this v5 ,it was unusable for me.With v4 I can run 50 tracks with 200 plugins.

    Interesting test for people arguing DAWs sound different.:wink:
     
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    There is an audible difference when the renders are played separately but as mentioned, all seems well when played together.
    This is why I want to recreate the project from scratch in each DAW.
     
  14. Artem Bankin

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    Many plugins , like tape /analog delays /reverbs,saturation/nonlinear - working with random algorithms ..
    therefore, there can be no 100 percent complete phase cancelling ....
    Because every render is not the same ....
     
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  15. Ayc

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    I don't know if i'm the only one that have a little bit more latency when playing with the midi keyboard than V4 (both with the same settings)
     
  16. quadcore64

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    While this is true, there are differences between DAW output using the same 'raw' source files.

    After getting caught up up Warrior, I finished setting up a new session in Pro tools, Reaper & S1. No FX, no panning, individual tracks seto to -6.0dB, mix bus set to -6.0dB. Loaded into Mixbus 32C. Each track had an audible difference. Flipped phase on each track comparing to other two. No complete cancellation from any combination.

    Source tracks were from Andrew Scheps "Mixing Fly Rasta". Have only watched first two parts after completing a mix.

    Should be able to replicate experiment with any clean source files I would imagine.

    S1 very close to being a jumping off point for a lot of people I would wager.
     
  17. quadcore64

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    No latency here. ASIO buffer set to 64 & S1 dropout protection set to minimum. Default sessions are 24bit/48kHz.

    Are you connecting through a USB hub or directly? Hubs can cause additional lag. Especially on USB 2.
     
  18. alonzo86

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    I'm interested when will they add "heal separation" function ? It is very handy to have it when you do automatic silence trim and when it makes a cut somewhere where is not needed, one click - healed where it needed to be.
     
  19. quadcore64

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    See this Presonus thread:
    https://forums.presonus.com/viewtopic.php?f=151&t=30148
     
  20. LWMJ

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    I usually run a keygen in a VM. It looks like that method doesn't work with this release. Is there a safe way to run the crack?
     
  21. Moonlight

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    still buggy, disappearing audio , and sound dropout for the last patterns in a loop
     
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