Native Access... Yes or No?

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  1. Epidemico

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    Maybe it's just me who don't understand things completely but why in the world you should need an account and Native access app? To download the only one or two libraries at an higher speed that aren't out there already? Maybe i'm missing something here. I have almost any NI cracked app installed and everything works perfectly, for Kontakt i use 6.4.2 portable version which is stable and running fine on standalone and vst both on Reaper and Ableton, only downside is that is the only NI app which is not available on Maschine because it's portable of course but i really don't care honestly, i have 51 libraries "added" (ninct) and hundreds of others libraries on quickload, stuff from 2014 to 2019, no issues at all, if i missed something please someone explain to me why in the world someone should need native access app. If you have legit stuff already you should just wait some time and buy what you need as soon as you can or when there's some discount, my personal opinion of course. If you have two machines and if you can why don't trying with cracked stuff on one and keep the legit stuff on the other machine?
     
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  2. aberlin32

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    But what happens, when you install Komplete on a fresh System.. of course you have all the libraries already?
     
  3. solo83

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    Why not just use portable Kontakt and avoid all of the hassle
     
  4. aberlin32

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    Not on Mac. But I’m talking about the whole bundle with battery and all the other stuff like the effects
     
  5. Talula

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    ???
     
  6. Epidemico

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    I know that but if you have two machines like he said and you want both legit and cracked software better keep legit on one machine and cracked on the other to avoid conflicts, just my opinion.
     
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    @bobdule answered my question in the other thread, bummer native access stopped working :suicide:
     
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  8. Talula

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    and what is your opinion based on? anonymous stories of novice musicians on the forums? conspiracy theories about total surveillance of users and cruel punishments for using pirated software?

    for about 8 years I have been using both licensed and pirated libraries at the same time, together with a pirated contact (NOT a portable version for Windows, for mac it is not portable at all), I use my ni account, including in the native access.

    and everything working without problems!
     
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  9. Talula

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    no. it was original native access. you are using cracked reaktor, kontakt and other ni plugins.

    it's because you also updated kontakt.
    force update can be only for native access, not for kontakt. just reinstall latest cracked kontakt.
     
  10. Epidemico

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    Ok, glad it works, i speak for myself and i share what i prefer to do, i didn't start my message with "my experience with cracked and legit software", i started with a question and no one answered me and i proposed that only because he said he has two machines, not only one, so more options to be 100% "safe", rather than 99% safe, MAYBE, and it's a personal opinion.

    The portable version of Kontakt is not a problem at all for me, it's the opposite, i think it's even better than the installed version, cracked or legit, the "installation" setup is super quick, nothing on windows registry, easy app update, no library registration, no serials, tons of "ninct" and "portable" libraries inside all working, no native access, it's even lighter on cpu compared to that last installed version i had, doesn't work inside maschine but i knew that before downloading it, it works perfectly in standalone mode and as vst on Ableton and Reaper and if i use maschine i don't use it for opening kontakt in it to be honest, i installed maschine just to check the sounds and projects inside the expansions, i don't use it as a daw and i don't have any maschine controller.

    If there's a minimum risk on one pc MAYBE the risk could be 0 if you install legit NI software on a pc and cracked NI software on another (without native access of course), it's just a personal opinion man, not a law written in stone.

    Personally i never mixed legit and cracked, never bought legit software to be honest, only Propellerhead Reason and i still don't understand what's the advantage of using native access for kontakt since almost every library is out there and working, i asked this question and no one answered me. PERSONALLY i don't bother buying a software if i don't have the money for the add-ons, especially if i want almost all the libraries but i can't afford that, and not all the libraries are on NI servers anyway so, for example, if you like Rigid audio or Synth Magic libraries for Kontakt you can't download that from there am i right? So i prefer use all cracked stuff from the start since i can't afford that but i can easily find and download almost everything out there, again PERSONAL OPINION, we share experiences but also opinions here right?
     
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  11. Talula

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    these developer making libraries ONLY for kontakt FULL! these libraries don't use serial number protection, not showing in native access or in library tab inside kontakt. so, yes, nobody can download them from ni servers!!!

    maybe because these question is stupid? I have some libraries that still wasn't released at any warez site and people like you asking for them again and again... I don't want to store few tb's on few external hdd. and I don't want use f...n torrent trackers and downloading tb's of data, unpacking them to reinstall library and wasting too many time for these actions. I can open native access (or other developer app), press ONE button and relax watching new series of south park or snowfall or shameless... and I don't need FULL (or cracked) kontakt for kontakt compatible libraries because they working with FREE kontakt player. and - yes, sometimes I posting my own licensed libraries that was asking some months or years: strezov, projectsam, orchestral tools, embertone, etc... ni close the hole and now a lot of libraries can not be downloaded without legit registration in personal ni account. and people like you will not be able to install updates... L.O.L.

    that's the last thing I need to know everything about you and your lifestyle. and our dialog is over from this moment.
    good luck!
     
  12. Epidemico

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    Never asked for anything cracked to anyone in my entire life.
    And most important: why are so angry and define "stupid" other people's questions? Even if it's stupid as you claim there's more polite ways to answer.

    Calm down man, i never wanted to make anyone angry, just sharing my thoughts, i'm not a "teacher", why you are so aggressive?
     
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    Is it possible to reinstall R132 on OSX?
     
  14. Smoove Grooves

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    Yes, you can reinstall an older version.
    But only on macOS.
    OSX finished in 2016 and the last version of Kontakt that worked on OSX was 5.5.1 or something like that.
     
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    No
     
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    What I meant, was download an earlier version of Kontakt and don't use NA!
    IE: NA?
    No!
     
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    No. It fails on everything. Its useless ...
    I wanted update my Massive 1.5.5 legit, after a few attempts and manual install it showed up as FULL.
    A week later, i sat without internet and wanted to create patches with Massive, only to find out its in Demo mode again.

    Thanks for nothing NI, i will rather use R2R version, then my legit one.

    The NI service Center was so much better, it just worked ...
     
  18. phumb-reh

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    Funny, I had more issues with SC than NA. Good thing that R2R exists for those having problems though. But I've had no problems mixing legit and non-legit (basically just Kontakt Portable and a few libraries).

    If somebody is not using any legit NI stuff there's no reason for installing/using access.
     
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    If NA at least had all Demo versions with one click available, not you still have to order them via mail.

    Agree if you dont have any legit NI stuff, you dont need NA!

    I dont know, for me it didnt work out. i just gave in and installed the latest R2R releases. Just did it for me.
     
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