Looking for 'Are you going with me' Pat Metheny's plug sound

Discussion in 'Working with Sound' started by ElMoreno, Sep 29, 2020.

  1. ElMoreno

    ElMoreno Kapellmeister

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    I'm looking for a sound (on AU/VST plugin for Mac) that is similar to the famous synth-guitar sounds that Pat Metheny uses in the song 'Are you going with me' on the Offramp album (1982).
    Any ideas, advice?

    Many thanks friends :thanks:
     
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  3. rudolph

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    Arturia ARP 2600 has a lead preset called Pat Synth Guitar, nothing close to the real thing but... good luck, not an easy task.
     
  4. ElMoreno

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    Thanks for you help.
    I know Pat uses two sounds: Harmonica & Synth Guitar from the GR-300 Roland Guitar Synth.
    Any plug presets that comes close to those sounds will be good. I need a 'special' sound for my new song that I''m writing.

    Waiting and looking for others new presets ideas and alternative proposals... :winker:
     
  5. The Freq

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    It's also worth noting that Arturia also has a Synclavier which is the actual instrument Pat Metheny used. While Arturia's Synclavier is certainly only a digital simulation/representation, you can tweak the settings to get the sound and definitely use EQ to fatten or thin to taste.
    The video is a long time ago but it has some info that should help you get the sound(s) you want.

     
  6. ElMoreno

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    Wow... watching Pat enthusiastic about that (nowadays) prehistoric technology makes so much nostalgia...
    Just over twenty years ago but it seems like a millennium have passed :(

    The thing that struck me most was seeing his right hand, the unusual way (strange to me) of holding the pick...
    I'm not very fast on the strings and, seeing at his technique, this makes me think that everything is mainly in the head not in the hand.
     
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    Yeah. Don't know how he does it the way he does. He says he uses a thin pick. But the way he holds it...... kinda barely holding on just to the back end of the pick rather than grasping most of it with just the tip sticking out like everyone does. You'd think it would keep flying out of his hand, lol. But he says because the pick is thin he kinda is able to fold it in his fingers. Mind you this is from interviews ages ago but still applies afaik.
    My top favorite guitarists..... Page, Steve Morse, Metheny, Blackmore.

    Sometimes running thru patches on some of my softsynths I have come across some that sound like it. Probably your best best is scrolling thru any lead patches on your synths and see whats close. To me its a kind of sinewavey/flutish with perhaps a bit of saw in it or something. Come to think of it, I believe my Roland VG8 has a patch that emulates it.
     
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  9. ElMoreno

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    Yes that's right, that's what struck me too, the way to hold the pick so weird and weakly...
    In any case I will never be able to fly on the guitar strings like him but I use a good melody to compensate.

    I will continue to scroll through the sounds of the plugs (maybe I found one that I quite like on Zebra...) although I'm still looking on Arturia ARP 2600, Synclavier V and others. :winker:

    My top favorite guitarists (there are so many)... Steve Lukather, Jimi Hendrix, Mick Ronson, Peter Green, Corrado Rustici, Jimmy Page, Pat Metheny, Ritchie Blackmore, Jeff Beck, Gary Moore, George Harrison, Joe Walsh, Carlos Santana, Walter Becker, Mark Knopfler, Robin Trower, David Gilmour, Albert King, George Benson, Prince, Paul Jackson Jr., The Edge, Diblo Dibala, Jacob Desvarieux, Dodi Battaglia, Andy Summers, Erik Brann, Roy Buchanan, Keith Richard, Steve Vai... I can go on:rofl:

    For me the taste of creating melody on the guitar is important, the technique as an end in itself does not interest me much.
     
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    @ElMoreno

    "is not instant composing, is not following any kind of a formula, ...all you do is hear music in your head ... and reproduce it".

    .-Lennie Tristano.

    "You can make your fingers reproduce 'exactly' what you "feel" ... if you really work at".-Lennie Tristano

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    2 days ago I was watching a recent recording of an online interview with guitarist Joe Satriani, where he was talking about the deep musical understanding of "Lennie Tristano", the one who was his first music teacher, and that inspires him to this days.

    after a brief search on "google", (Jazz lover's, my excuses) ... what I found was impressive, and indeed for me a beautiful gift.

    - Tristano met saxophonist Charlie Parker in 1947. They played together in bands that included bebop musicians Dizzy Gillespie and Max Roach later that year for radio broadcasts ... ...found on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennie_Tristano

    Tristano´s view of music
    Lennie Tristano´s Documentary:

     
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