I was in contact with a guy that was supposedly R2R:er, and he said they had Cubase 10.5 and WaveLabs etc for about 80USD.
This was even a while ago.

 

We're all aware of this secret agreement between Steinberg and R2R: "We offer you one license of each of our products for 80USD, but you swear on your moms to not crack them"...

 

You can be 100% sure it's a scam. R2R would never sell anything.

 

Cubase is dead since Studio ONE v4 came out.
Nobody cares about Cubase anymore

 

I tried emailing "Steinberg.team.russia" but the email was no longer used.

 

you have to invest your time for what? the seller knows not every buyer picks (and swallows) the bait. and you? 15 minutes are gone, for nothing. you lost something, not the scammer! and the next customer WILL buy (and be happy) for 5 bucks...

 

You're wrong.
It's 100% Scam

at yahoo sellers add note with something like "this is only installation package/files for users who lost their backup copy". this note allows them to avoid being banned.

 

I also love StudioOne but, how do you mix 5.1 surround in StudioOne ? So saying noone cares is a bit over huh

 

S1 is strictly for writing music, from idea to final mix. yes, it has the functionality of a regular sound editor and many people use S1 as a sound editor. but for recording sound, writing music, working with instruments and effects, using samples, and other things that are necessary to create a musical composition, ordinary stereo is enough. for any music. for any genre. stereo is a music standard and will be the standard for many years to come.


musicians don't need a surround, only sound engineers need a surround =)

 

Surround is needed to work for movies
To prepare specific shows, some are purely musical using surround effects. I know a very creative Italian composer who use surround in his compositions.
And in some cases, like I've been hired to do, it is used for museums and places like that, to render the ambiance of a specific scene, but it is still music.

So we can't say that surround is only for engineers .

 

While S1 has all of my respect, Cubase is still the top dog in the field. There were couple years when things looked grim, but Steinberg somehow picked up and I guess eventually they decided that their vision for Cubase has been fulfilled and now Cubase is mostly listening to their userbase on what to implement next because they've run out of ideas. And while it might sound bad that they've run out of ideas, it's very good that they're listening their community for some instead. Because what usually happens is that the upgrades go into some stuff like new EQ that nobody asked for alongside with incremental, marignal updates.

S1 is still developing and rolling out new features. Their latest big update came finally with things such as keyswitch mapping, but there's still for instance no Retrospective Midi, no direct offline processing, no native auto align (although Cubase auto-align insofar isn't like super thrilling - but they're working on it) et cetera.

What S1 has going for it though is having no dongles and the price point is less steep.

I've said this quite a few times and I'll say it here too: the reason why people dislike Cubase is because it's the only DAW (to my knowledge) that you cannot effectively pirate a full version of. I've heard a lot of complaints from people who use Cubase (and I got much to complain about it myself), but the topics of complaints are at this point so insignificant. Like for instance, Cubase loves to ask repeatedly if the user is sure about performing some action and while you can tell it to shut up in some cases, even then once you close the software and open it again, it'll ask about that again.

But then I hear people who use Ableton or FL Studio shit on Cubase and for me it's incredibly hard to take them seriously when neither DAW even has customizable keybinds. Sure, you might not understand the value of assigning a function that you use constantly to a much easier position when your DAW does not even allow for that, but you do once you actually can do it. Or say, I use a de-esser and find that actually some region of the audio still isn't cut enough but adjusting the settings any further will take too much from the rest. Well, i can just select that region of audio and process it directly instead. No need to bounce, make new tracks or anything, just select a region and apply your effect.

I've had to fix recordings that were utter garbage through extremely tedious work and I've managed to do it so much faster because of various features that Cubase has that are either directly exclusive to it or a very small subset of DAW's (in all honesty, PT shares lot of features with Cubase, but screw Avid).

So, to anyone who thinks that Cubase is irrelevant, I suggest actually trying the damn thing.

 

a lil bit to much huh , try mixing surround in studio one

 

Last edited: Aug 26, 2020

no, these are not my words =)))

I will try to explain, but it will be difficult for me to do it in English ... I hope I can correctly convey the general meaning. Give me few minutes (or hours :-D) and I'll answer you and @Olymoon

 

you are are correct , I quouted the wrong sorry
fixed