I didn't think you were denying it, but if that thirty seconds has made a lot of income, it's a no-brainer that they would go after someone to recover their share.

 

If it is watermarked they dont need to hunt you down. Read what I wrote above. There are dozen of companies doing it for them.

 

But a VST certainly can watermark the output/rendered audio.

 

Why have an alarm at your house if you have bars on windows and doors?

 

^ So I shouldn't bother to hide or lock a safe because I have a front door lock.

 

I don't have bars installed. Also bad example. If you have a great chance to catch the theft why put more security things?

 

I allways kept it simple... If one of my songs get's unexpectedly popular or some labels want me, I just buy the sample pack or the vst. But maybe it's more difficult if you are already on a label or make money with your music, and still use pirated stuff. I allways planned to buy the stuff if I'm earning money from my music, thats one of the reasons I only take what I really need from sisters site.

 

Not really. You just have to buy the product sooner!

 

There are cases. However, whether the case gets published, and therefore we learn of it is a different story. With that said, if you still think that it never happens go to Google Scholar and conduct a search of its case law database with "digital watermark."

 

Bro it is your prerogative to do as you please. If you want to make music for profit, or have clients pay you for work, using non-legit stuff, you are the one risking it all. Labels, publishers, artists, clients know what is going on with non-legit software. And they are making sure that they protect themselves. I do too. Every artist/producer that comes to us MUST prove that they own every VST that was used in a song. Everything. A couple of guys from here that have sent me their music can tell you, I ask for a list of everything that was used in it, and whether it is legit or not. The idea of making music for profit with something that is not legit never has entered my mind ... and I am @The Pirate.

 

But we are not talking about labels, mass producers or well-known artist, people that already have great studios and amazing VST collections. This topic is about some guy who probably doesn't have his own midi keyboard yet. Who might or might not produce a single track. This is a huge difference.

Edit: anyways this is some next level of necromancy. This topic is from 2012 that guy maybe already released great banger with pirated VST and he made money of it and now has everything legal :D

 

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naa,
probably he is now a freelance carpenter

btw, i must learn to check the date and beware of these revived darn old threads

 

I'm sure it can be done and a few VSTs implement it. But I doubt most VSTs use it.
That being said, not updated in this topic.

 

You’re not allowed to release music with samples which you didn’t purchase that‘s clearly what every contract (at least from major labels) says.
With VSTs it‘s up to you BUT if you make money with music, then you should buy it to support the devs.

 

Nothing is clear in a recording contract from a major label, but I have never seen that written in a recording or publishing contract.
Obviously the license agreement from a sample company will say this though.

 

Correct. The burden of sample clearance is on the artist. More importantly, solid contracts do contain an indemnity clause which specify that if the record label and artist get sued over the unauthorized use of samples,the artist is responsible for paying the record company's legal costs, and fines.

 

As it is for the artist to have not 'written' a song they didn't write! And yet they still slip through the net, as do samples, prior to the courtcase that ensues.
I never saw the "clear" amendment in a contract to specifically mention what @iDjay has said, because the company covers it's arse to include all those types of situations anyway.

 

Bit late to this party but dive on in..

1. The strict answer is that the clue is in your original post - you are asking about the possible ramifactions of releasing music commercially made with illegal software or/and samples. You have answered your own question - it is illegal, it is theft both in terms or copyright and intellectual property. Unless you have purchased said software/samples direct from an authorised dealer (so the original creator gets paid) then what you propose is illegal. End of story.

2. You can also look back to the early days of warez, at the original ethos of warez which was "try before you buy but if you like it, and especially if you release music or make any kind of income then go and buy legit copies". Support the developers so they can pay their bills, put food on the table for their family's and continue to be in business.

3. You decide to go ahead and use the illegal software / samples, create something that your very proud of and looks like it could be successful and then some toe rag nicks it and uses it with your permission and makes load of money - how would you feel? Not the brave fave you my put on in forums but the real way you would feel when your laying in bed at 3am and you cant sleep because that thing you have carefully created, be it music, samples or what ever has been stolen and that thief is making lots of money with your creation...

 

i dont have a valid id for 10 years now does that make me illigal

 

Has anyone got any proof that this audio watermarking exists?
Probably half the music industry would get flagged.