Cubase & External HDD

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  1. vicsalazar

    vicsalazar Noisemaker

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    Hello everyone,

    I curently have a computer with SDD on which I have 128Go of space, cubase and a few library are the main things on it.
    When loading a library, it only takes a few milliseconds, this works great.

    For additionnal library, I use an external hard drive, from WD, not in SSD.
    I would like to know if you think that it's a good idea to buy a new SSD external Harddrive in order to have the same speed on my computer ? Or will i be limited by the speed of the usb 3.0 ?

    If anyone has suggestion, please share them ! Tks !

    vic

     
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  3. No Avenger

    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    On principle I'd recommend to buy an internal SSD, but I think you really want an external drive.

    An ext SSD is faster than a ext. HDD, but I just today came across an article where they measured than hardly any ext. SDD could make use of the full USB 3.0 speed, surprisingly. But this article is 12 months old now, so that maybe has changed. I'm still researching.
     
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  4. Pure Energy

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    ok what i did was buy a PCIe card that It holds M.2 drives The one I got holds 4 nvme cards I had 4 X 250gb drives lying around so I used those
    Later on when the 1 and 2 TB drives come down I can add
    then I then used Windows 10 pro storage spaces to make on large storage drive


    This is a a 2 drive i bought
    [​IMG]
    EZDIY-FAB Dual M.2 Adapter,M.2 PCIe NVMe and PCIe AHCI SSD to PCIe 3.0 x4 and M.2 SATA SSD to SATA III Adapter Card
    Sold by: EZDIY-FAB
    Return window closed on Jul 30, 2020
    CDN$ 26.99
    this one you can mic drives

    Heres my 4 drive one


    SEDNA - PCIe Quad M.2 SSD SATA 6G 4 Port Raid Adapter with HyoperDuo Hard disk acceleration function (SSD not included)
    Sold by: aticas-shop
    Return window closed on Aug 1, 2020
    CDN$ 158.25V

    hope that helps these are nice and fast 6gb transfer

    You can add as many cards as you have slots for them
     
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    vicsalazar Noisemaker

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    Thanks for all of your answers, @Pure Energy i think this is way beyond my technical capacity, i'm trying to find a external drive that i could take with me during my travels ;)
    From what you're saying @No Avenger , even though they do not use the 3.0 full capacity for transfer, they're still faster than a HDD, so i think i'll go and buy that ;)
    Anyone else has done this or has any tricks ?
     
  6. Polomo

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    Again the SSD is the better choice for that, since there are no mechanical Parts, it's safer for travel.

    In numbers SSD vs HDD .
    Most HDD got 100-200 MB/s
    SSD start at 350 MB/ s and go to insane 3500 MB/ s (PCI-E) read speed.

    Now for the math
    if your Lib is say 1 GB its 1024 MB and take ~5 sec to load (200MB/s)
    with a mid class SSD 500 MB/s it's only ~ 2 sec

    USB 2.0 got max 480 Mbit/s ( 60MB/s )
    USB 3.0 5000Mbit/s (625 MB/s)
    USB 3.1 10000Mbit/s (1250MB/s)
    That’s just the theorie in praxis most of them just don't do it this fast

    But more interesting are the Seek times HDD 4-15 ms SSD 0.08 and 0.16 ms

    Only if you on a tight budget (SSD cost 4-5 time HDD same capacity) or need extreme large Space (10 TB can be gotten for less than 200€) an HDD would be an Option

    And if you got the choice between an MLC TLC and QLC
    MLC is best and QLC is the worst .
     
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    vicsalazar Noisemaker

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    Thank you for your infos !
    I'll go for that, for now 500Go SSD will do fine ;)
    Thank you everyone !
     
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    @Polomo 's answer is good, but also keep in mind what @No Avenger said. If this disk is gonna be external you're limited by your computer USB port.
    This is not saying it shouldn't be an SSD, but what I'd do is to buy an slower and perhaps bigger one. A regular SATA3 one for instance.
     
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    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    Ah, yes, I forgot to mention (effin 220°F here) for round about 60% of the price of an SSD, you'll get a HDD with fourtimes the capacity. So, for storage purposes I'd go for a HDD.
     
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    The thing is that storage is not my #1 preoccupation, 500Go is clearly enough for me, i already have all my library i need in 300Go storage, so i just need something faster and with 20% more storage in case i come across one or two nice library
    I think i'm going to go for my passport SSD with 512Go from WD
    Is there anyway i can know the speed of my usb ports ?
     
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    After checking the WD website, you're right, the 2To HDD is the same price... I'm now hesitating lol
     
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    I saw and was talking about this:
    - Samsung MU-PA1T0B/EU Portable SSD T5 1TB USB 3.1 Externe SSD 133,90 €
    vs
    - Intenso Memory Case 4TB Externe HDD (6,35 cm (2,5 Zoll) 5400 U/min, 8 MB Cache, USB 3.0) 86,94 €


    Therefore 60% and fourtimes the capacity. But that was just a quick look.
     
  13. Xupito

    Xupito Audiosexual

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    That's an usual dilemma. Choices are a bitch sometimes :rofl:

    But if you're going to use that external disk for loading Kontakt and other big libs, SSD is almost mandatory.
    As @Polomo pointed out:
    That's even more important for using a Kontakt library that the raw speed.
     
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    Xupito Audiosexual

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    Whot????? Isn't that a typo?? Where are you Noa, in the Earth's core????
     
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    No Avenger Moderator Staff Member

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    Ok, that was maybe a little over the top. It's just 99°F here - in the fridge. :rofl:
     
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    Xupito Audiosexual

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    Yeah yeah, only a little lol.
    Here we have 84 F which is like paradise so it won't last but 65% humidity. I've "pressed" several times already the cell keyboard with drops of sweat (true history).
     
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