Power of Summing Mixers

Discussion in 'Mixing and Mastering' started by Grater, Jun 23, 2020.

  1. curtified

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    oh, one more suggestion. I grabbed a few "vintage" 8 channel mixers off of craigslist, offerup, letgo for under 50 bux. Depending on the mixer they all color the sound in a unique way. Some even have a 2 or 3 band eq per channel on them. Give it a go.
     
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    what is more important for you quality or speed?

    How would you explain it to a client?
     
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  4. curtified

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    Speed for me. I can get the same quality by vibing and mixing without worrying about routing and setup.


    Client doesn't care if the mix was done ITB or OTB as long as it sounds good. (Good thing I'm the only client :wink:)
     
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    Can anyone provide a track with one itb version and one "summing mixer magic" version.
    (but nothing else done).
    I'd really love to hear the difference.
     
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    Thanks for answering: I have another question, I’m thinking about buying it, can you create a template in your daw so you don’t have to route everything over and over as you mentioned ?
     
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    Yes, you can. this is great if you mix from stems and not in your creative session. You can make a template and just place the proper stem into the proper routing for the channel. Give it a shot with my NCAR suggestion above. Once u get a real summing mixer u can just change the outputs from NCAR to your Interface.
     
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    Anyone here ever try the AIRWINDOWS CONSOLE plugins?
     
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    I try to do as much as I can out of the box, through a Soundtracs Topaz 18ch mixer, and then record stereo tracks into Reaper for mix finalisation. It does sound more "3D" and warmer, easier to mix with when I do it that way.

    However, I always start the projects completely in the box, because in the beginning stage sound is not that important to me, only lyrics and arrangement, and the superficial idea of how it will sound. Like making a demo track. If the track sounds like shit at that stage, no mixing or better sounds will make it any better. :wink:

    It saves you a lot of time choosing which track are worth finishing and going the whole way. That's the more fun part, too.
     
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    Lol, this is what I'm asking and everyone is talking about plugins. And the examples available are not from high end summing mixers with transformers on each channel but passive and gained up with preamps- not quite the same thing really.
     
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    That's smart and what I wanna do as well. Which interface do you have?
     
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    What do you mean by in series? There's an input and output tranny in the mp573 and the signal passes both, according to Jean Pierre. Can't complain, they work and sound great.
     
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    summing mixer..
    hand it to the guitarist :woot: guaranteed unexpected result
     
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    some great ideas here guys, i like what you said about the dangerous
     
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    I meant to say "amplifiers" rather than transformers.
     
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    Can you link a review with the neve 5060 or the spl mix dream with audio files? I just found a german site with very tame musical examples.
     
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    There is a pretty easy way to test summing. Just download a trial of Acustica Audio amethyst and/cream and put the pres on your busses and master bus.

    Then overdrive the plugs a bit. Most of the times it's amazing.

    Kind regards,
    D.
     
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    Keep on looking. Sorry but I can't spend my time searching for something that is equally available to everyone.
     
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