Missing Deep Analog Rumble in my Vsti´s - looking for Hardware?

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  1. Roject

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    Gonna finalize this thread,
    1. I got a lot of recommendations in terms of technique and new plugins, gonna try them all which will take time :rofl:
    2. My plan is to get better in the Vsti, try new things and hunt that sound.
    3. I am also going to buy a Moog Sub Phatty, I decided I need to make my own experiences...good or bad. Also, this is going to be the only Synth I am going to buy as I dont need one for other sounds. When I listen to the Moog Sub Phatty, my EARS and my HEART say yes! Maybe its just subjective.

    Again, thank you all for your constructive feedback. I really appreciate it!
     
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    I own, have owned or have borrowed all of these except for elektron analog four and roland SH01A(but have had other ARIA products, not analog tho ;) )
    Out of these, Minitaur most defnitely has "Most deep analog rumble bass". It can blow glass out of windows. In fact, for the everyday use,
    it hits the "too much low end" type of sound rather easily and it gets a bit hard to mix it well into the song. It's somewhat tricky to connect(being old with old drivers) and you definitely need the usb computer app editor to get the most of it.

    So I'd rather pick Sub Phatty(I have sub37, same oscilators) for that money. Keys, plays higher notes and still has that moog sound, which even if not from the taurus family, can still shake glass panels rather well.

    Other than that, Bass station 2 is a fantastic synth, which also can do bass really well and is perhaps ,with new firmware, even better than sub phatty. Cue that oscilator wars, but the functionality is comparable, it's just personal prefference what you like best at this point.

    Monolog, Arturia and AIRA stuff... can do bass. Not as good, but passable, sometimes great.
    Korg bass is a thinner, but sits really well in an average song. Arturia bass is... meh. Brutes are great for growls, psytrance-ish bandpass sweeps and general weirdnes. And roland stuff is just not analog. Sounds great, bass is moving, but thats not what we are looking for here :D Behringer?
    I did not understand novation circuit at all. Must be a live act thing. Not for me. Heard it's great tho.

    Bottom line: If you are going specifically for bass alone, minitaur is king here. If you plan to use the synth for other stuff choose between phatty and bassstation. You could also look into behringer sh101, moog or odyssey, the "traditional" analog bass synth clones.

    Out of VSTS, U-he Diva and Repro came closest to the real thing. Repro specificaly is indistinguishable from my Rev2, with which they share a good portion of arhitecture. Maybe try Korg Odyssey, and Synapse audio Legend, both VERY rumbly.
    Trilian is another option, but I coudn't ever get it to sit well in the mix, I just found it... odd.
     
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    Here a taste of the Moog Sub Phatty...
     
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    I have thought about the Bass Station II, they are doing a great job with Firmware updates. But I have not heard a demo that goes into the low end like the Sub Phatty. The Behringer Model D was also a candidate but there were reports of the device going out of tune which required welding on the board, so that scared me away. Also, sound demo did not really hit me :)
     
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    Yes, sub phatty would be my first choice at this pricepoint. But I like the moog sound ;)
     
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    Bassrider won't help. It just rides the volume.
    Arturia sucks. Trillian is much better for bass.
    Kontakt libraries are also good (not all of them ofcourse)
    I prefer sampled hardware rather than VSTi's.

    Two or three moths ago i mixed a song with a sub bass from a Jupiter 6 (not mine unfortunately)
    The closest thing i have to that is Trillian or my old Ensoniq ASR10.

    On the sister site there are some free Sub Phatty samples you could find/ use.
    If that doesn't scare your neighbours away, nothing will.
     
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    Ahhh, Jupiter 6...I like. The Wave Plugins like Bass Rider I am gonna try for other things, also I thinkg the Submarine is next version of Lo Air, where Lo Air has a simpler interface. The videos looked interresting so I am gonna try them although they have nothing to do with my subject matter. Trillian was recommended by some, will check it out.
     
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