Best cracked orchestra sounds?

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  1. orbitbooster

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    That is very difficult, and hard even with Divisimate.
    However, they're unbeatable on solo, and a quartet, or a chamber orchestra are feasible.



     
  2. Trurl

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    Some great moments in the NAMM video, some not so much. Nice for a live performance though. That seems to be Tom Brislin watching.
     
  3. jazzzz

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    It depends on which issues you are referring to. If it's one note out of tune played by that section, you can correct it in Tuning Tools tab for each instrument. But if you are speaking about samples where the group played in different tune together, you can't correct it, that's true.
    There are even more issues with it when they mixed layers, like mf with f and the two samples have different tuning.
     
  4. waverider

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    Speaking of issues like these, what would you say are good libraries that have the least of those, in your experience? Things like out of tune notes, timing differences (so that different midi notes won't get triggered exactly on time etc.), timbres that stick out where they don't belong, etc.
     
  5. Trurl

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    Perfect tuning and timing is the f**king bane of orchestral libraries as far as I'm concerned. Nothing screams "SAMPLES!" like an orchestra that sounds like it has been quantized and autotuned. Obviously you don't want things to sound too loose, but half the work I have do do with most sampled acoustic instruments is loosen the intonation.
     
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  6. Sillytune

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    I'll chip in to this question
    - Personally i support pirating the living shit out of everything that you can, however if you want to go -legit- in the business,
    The EastWest package 90 day trial, then 9.99$ @ Month for students, sounds like a decent deal

    The deal with the freebies's mostly that they suck balls, sure okay - it's free, it sucks
    My compositions are:

    [Entirely Orchestral Tools - Ark 3]


    [Mixture of:
    - Cinemasample/Orchestral Tools/Spitfire Library/Cinematic Strings
    ]


    [Mostly Chriss Hein & Emotional Cello/Violin]


    These 3 compositions should be fine for me to write the following:
    - The thing with each kontakt library's that it's really sort of made for specific something
    Orchestral Tools, can't pull out the articulation/lively performance of a solo instrument
    But then Chriss Hein/Emotional C/V Can
    Same thing goes in reverse, these 2 libraries can't do cinematic/big impact/orchestra because they aint made to do that
    And if you want to get all of the libraries legit, rob a bank or something, not to mention the VSTs that you need for decent mixing
    [And let me stop you right there about the DAW vsts, just ignore those comments]

    Anyway, best libraries that i've found for strings are:
    - Chriss Hein/Emotional Cello/Violin, for solo expression
    - OT Ark 1/3 - for Orchestral "bang"
    - Cinematic Strings 2
    - Spitfire Albion ONE & Spitfire Chamber Brass
    - Performance Sample | Anything that you can get, there's only 4-5 libraries that're shared/cracked
    - Strezov Sampling - Affiatus or whatever the name strings

    And tbh these are more than enough for you to go on journey and just write/compose music
    Do note that i like the CineSample Strings as well, but there's some weird popping whenever i try to play them
    They use so many voicings, i'm not sure if they're meh scripted or my CPU's dogshit, could be both
     
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  7. waverider

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    Thank you, that is interesting feedback about this question. I am a beginner but I still found it so rough that I have to spend soo much time to manually move midi notes around because they would not all begin playing at the same timing, or play with mod wheel automation just so I can make a standing out note make fit in, etc.. Would be nice to have an orchestral library that just works (or rather, that has the least of these issues out of them all).
     
  8. Futurewine

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    In case you'll be using Orchestral Tools, and looking for perfect accompanying drum kit, Studio Drummer was recorded at the same Berlin fyi..
    also if you need to blend with other sounds that is lacking in Berlin density, audioease has the Berlin IR, fyi.. in case you need em and may find use.. here the link just fyi: :bow:
    https://www.audioease.com/IR/VenuePages/teldex.html

    I'm all Cinesamples but I would go for Orchestral Tools for video game scoring because it doesnt sounds like orchestral tunes from the 80s tv/movie themes like Cinesamples does + when you think of modern days video game trailer, OT just fits in.

    I think both library has it releases completely (strings/brass/woodwinds/percussion/piano)

    Spitfire Audio would have been the best cracked libraries but we only have symphonic series. SA complete series includes Solo/Studio/Chamber/Symphonic size of orchestral. We only has Symphonic :sad:

    Also worth to have.. ProjectSAM.. more fantasy mystery fairy disney crime horror mystical adventure kind of vibes (just my opinion, another great library ofc) :like:
     
  9. pizzafresser

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    Everything by Project Sam and Cinesamples sounds great out of the box.
     
  10. Valnar

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    Eastwest, orchestral tools, spitfire, projectsam, heaviocity, hell even native instrument libraries like action strings, kinetic toys, analog dreams, ethereal earth, the world instrument discovery series etc. are pretty good
    certain libraries for kontakt are so popular that you will find them in nearly every AAA Studio game like Heaviocity Damage percussion
     
  11. Christoph Pawlowski

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    Doesn't realy fit with the topic, but does anyone knew a cello library which offers some "crazy" articulations, such as open harmonic glisses, sul pont glisses etc. ?
     
  12. Qrchack

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    Get a cello player. If you really need such articulations, you have a very specific project and it will be easier just to record the exact thing you have in mind. Even if there is some library that does these articulations, I doubt you will have luck achieving the result you're after with samples.
     
  13. redhead

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    Surprised I haven't seen more recs for this one, but I have used ( and will still use ) many of the aforementioned libraries....But one that has proved very useful for me in general pop/orchestral writing is Cinematic Studio Strings....and if you're looking to go legit, at $399, it's a bang of a bargain, with nice legatos, separate sections et al. It's my current goto for this sort of thing.
     
  14. Trurl

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    Yes, I seem to remember quite liking those actually. May have to give them another look...
     
  15. Bernjard

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    Hi - after searching for a large multi-purpose Orchestra (or even just Brass Strings or Woodwind), I can't find anything....none of the items mentioned in this thread seem to be available. Am I missing something. Can someone make a suggestion?

    Also, what about the free Spitfire stuff.....worthwhile?

    [Edit]

    Sorry, think I'm being a noob here and read the earlier posts.....If one has a cracked version of Kontakt....where do you get the legit Orchestral library that goes with it? For things like Spitfire, these don't run on Kontakt right?
     
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  16. Qrchack

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    The library license check happens in Kontakt, cracked Kontakt means any library should load, legit or not. "Things like Spitfire" is not a precise definition - while most of Spitfire catalogue runs in Kontakt (except the very latest stuff), there are three variants possible:
    - works in Kontakt Player, this means you just buy the library and can use it straight away
    - requires full Kontakt, this means you need to buy both the library and Kontakt, otherwise it will run in a 15-minute demo mode and prevent you from using the library any further - almost every free Kontakt library and lots of paid ones from small developers are like this
    - doesn't use Kontakt and has its own player plugin

    Spitfire has all three, so you have to check specs for the exact library you're interested in. There's no rule here.
     
  17. Bernjard

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    Thanks Qrchack.

    Part of my question is where does one find the Kontakt libraries. I was expecting, probably naively, to find them in the sister area, but coming to the conclusion that you need to look more broadly on the internet.
     
  18. Qrchack

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    The reason is some companies request their products to be taken down from the site. You can look up on other sites and see if you have luck finding a site they didn't contact, or you can use P2P downloads (torrent) where it's not possible to take something down because everyone helps spread the file.
     
  19. Bernjard

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    thank you. That was what I had basically concluded. Just wasn't sure if I was missing something on the sister search.
     
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