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does anyone here work in this way?

 

Well, why not discuss directly there?

 

That's just too much BLA, BLA!!! Just use your ears + knowldege + intuition, that's all! *yes*

 

I don't understand what there is to descuss?


He's mix the song and the faders are near 0db, if it works then why care how low it is.
The only time mixing quiet can bea problem is if it's done on a low quality mixer and the mixed signal collects noise from the input channels.

If there's more to it later on that topic sorry I got sick of reading after the first 3 posts

 

see, this is exactly what gives me a more and more clear picture of what standard practices are amongst people who know how to mix 'properly'. ofcourse it's all intuition and ears, but there are standards to begin with and to know that is better than to begin looking for your way in a dark room, i'm trying to light a candle here, know what i'm saying. the internet offers so much information, but with that comes also a lot of false information, i wanted to know yall's opinion because then i can see how people in general think of this subject. from there i can tell better wether things are good or not.

i can just play around for 20 years and just stay at that exact level, i'm trying to learn the tools and standard practices and innovate as i've mastered that... understand?

 

i once thought of that site as real 'high' as to say, but i don't like discussing there 'cause people there are ELITE SNOBS most of the time. ask anything that isn't pro and get shot to the ground, i don't like that. everybody starts at a certain level you know and it seems everybody there knows better and well.. it's just not fun discussing there. i like the vibe here more. ofcourse it can be a great resource, but that mostly it...

 

Personally my kick is peaking @ -10db and the rest is set accordingly, so in worst case I end up with -4db of headroom and I practice that even with other genres, works for me really

 

I agree with you!
But if they're not all real SNOBS, they "talk big" as if they were the only masters of sound engineering. All because their mums+dads had enough bills to send them to special schools!! That's why they look down to "normal" people in an arrogant way.

 

^this

 

Well, like on every Audio forum, there are a lot more geeks/nerds than snobs. As I started 'producing' (like the nerds call it), I read a lot of these threads.

Nowadays, I couldn't care less, because no matter what you ask, in general there are two answers:

1. you can do it like this.
2. you cannot do it like this.

or

1. a is better than b.
2. b is better than a.

"Mixing on headphones?" - "No way!" - It's possible!"; "Hardware gear is better?" - "Of course!, "Not any more"; "Famous producer X does his own mastering in the box?" - "Not possible, he has secret gear, secret helpers, monitors and gear a million dollars worth.."; "Mp3s@256 are transparent?" and so on. I guess you know what I mean. It's the Internet.

A lot of people are like eunuchs - they know exactly how it's done, but they cannot do it. (not my quote) ;).

Of course there are as well some masters, but I guess only one in a thousand (like in every other field)...

 

Good arguments! *yes*
I only go to Gearsluts to check new product releases.
Or i check this one too:

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http://en.audiofanzine.com/computer-music/news/page.1.html

KVR-Audio is very lame with posting news!! Generally you only see them on their page when they were released several days or weeks before. *Yawn!* *no* *no*

 

well, kvr might be slow with updating their shit, but that site + their forum harbours a lot of experience and over there they ain't so snobbish. i also like it's in depth plugin tutorials.. very handy

 

hey,
well gain staging is asolute essential if you are in a anaolog or a hybrid setup!
most outboard gear works best at 0dbvu(-18dbfs)..some pieces like it to be driven hotter,but you'll only do this to get 'attitude' out of it.
+outboard have much headroom over 0dbvu (often 27db or so) but there is absolute zero headroom above 0dbfs in the digital world

In an itb only environment you dont want to hit (no excuse) 0dbfs!just because it dont add harmonics it just distorts in a bad way and distroys your signal



have fun & good luck