Who can identify thEQorange (now incl. solving)?

Discussion in 'Mixing and Mastering' started by No Avenger, Apr 23, 2020.

  1. No Avenger

    No Avenger Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2017
    Messages:
    9,116
    Likes Received:
    6,362
    Location:
    Europe
    Nope, that's why I wrote 'small test' and 'identical values'. Neither did I adjust the output which differs among these EQs for ~ 1dB.
    For a more thorough one-to-one test I might've done this.

    Oh, I didn't forget it, ok maybe a bit, but I find it rather difficult to built matching low cut, bells and high shelf bands with ReaFIR.
    The FFT size isn't a problem, you can change it in EQuilibrium and theEQorange too.

    Yep, nope, sorry. :winker:

    On the one hand you're right. Especially theEQorange is meant to be a mastering EQ and should therefore be used on a complete song.
    On the other hand a complex content could be too distracting from small details and I thought just three naked sounds could give useful information about their dynamic, phase and frequency response.

    And hopefully you never have to boost any frequency by 6dB while mastering.
     
  2. The Pirate

    The Pirate Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2018
    Messages:
    5,172
    Likes Received:
    4,398
    Location:
    NOYMFB
    :goodpost::hillbilly:
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • List
  3. Xupito

    Xupito Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2012
    Messages:
    7,237
    Likes Received:
    3,996
    Location:
    Europe
    Very funny.. hahaha. Don't be a dick!!! You know what I meant fluffy old fartiger :rofl:
     
    • Funny Funny x 4
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • List
  4. No Avenger

    No Avenger Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2017
    Messages:
    9,116
    Likes Received:
    6,362
    Location:
    Europe
    Done. Do you think this really helps?
     
  5. dolphinhero6969

    dolphinhero6969 Noisemaker

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2019
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    4
    Listening again (& to the new track), my order of preference now is 3, 2, 1, 4.
    Although I think I would be pretty okay with any of these EQs, adjusting curves as necessary, except for 4 which seems to do a weird thing with the depth. 3 seems to sound the deepest to me, but I'm not sure how much of that is the way the EQ handles depth & transients vs. the actual curves themselves (bigger / louder low end usually means the track itself feels 'deeper').
     
  6. shankar

    shankar Platinum Record

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2015
    Messages:
    321
    Likes Received:
    289
    I pass and let the others try :suicide:

    For me, the tracks are too long, too rich and I can't choose which Eq is my favorite :crazy:

    Yesterday was much easier.
    I had to focus on 3 or 4 elements to make my choice.
    The bottom band, the top band, the transients ... and my decision was much easier, obvious and fast.

    With this new song, at some point I prefer the 3rd EQ like yesterday, but on others, I really like the 4th which will boost the brass and give more energy.
    Anyway, with this test or even that of yesterday, I am unable to know who is who.
    I usually don't use any of these 4 Eqs.

    This proves to me one thing, an eq can be the best...
    but not for all situations !

    I learn a lot from you.
    Thank you again @No Avenger for this test and the others for all your comments :wink:
     
  7. eXACT_Beats_

    eXACT_Beats_ Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2018
    Messages:
    750
    Likes Received:
    554
    I gotta get back to you on this as I'm on the move all day and only have my earbuds, which, I think, may lose something in translation. :rofl:
    Nice EQ geek-ery, though. It's always interesting doing EQ/Compressor/etc. comaparisons; I just rarely have the time so, thanks. :wink:
     
  8. shankar

    shankar Platinum Record

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2015
    Messages:
    321
    Likes Received:
    289
    Oops, I forgot to answer the main question.
    Who can identify the EQorange?

    Given that the EQorange is an EQ for super precise mastering and which costs 678 € :rofl:
    it should be super clean like the equilibrium... or more.
    So I would say:
    2 equilibrium
    3 EqOrange
    ... Or the opposite :facepalm:
     
  9. No Avenger

    No Avenger Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2017
    Messages:
    9,116
    Likes Received:
    6,362
    Location:
    Europe
    Half of it is right - or the opposite. :woot: :rofl:
     
  10. Sinus Well

    Sinus Well Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2019
    Messages:
    2,112
    Likes Received:
    1,626
    Location:
    Sanatorium
    How did you do the matching?

    I would feed 2 EQs with FFT noise and then match them using multiband correlation meter and level-/bit-meter.

    greetings
    sinus
     
    • Interesting Interesting x 1
    • List
  11. junh1024

    junh1024 Rock Star

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2011
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    433
    If you're measuring performance of EQ, # of filters doesn't matter that much for FFT since the same #bins is being processed anyway. You can draw bells easier in ReaFIR with points(smooth) mode.
     
  12. No Avenger

    No Avenger Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2017
    Messages:
    9,116
    Likes Received:
    6,362
    Location:
    Europe
    ->
    Means, no matching. As I already said with only two EQs and a thourough test I probably would've done this. I neither made any pre-ringing analysis or compared different FFT sizes.

    I never heard of FFT noise.
     
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2020
  13. Smoove Grooves

    Smoove Grooves Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2019
    Messages:
    5,184
    Likes Received:
    1,962
    Sure you have. 'FFT' is the noise you hear when it's time to go to the toilet.
     
  14. No Avenger

    No Avenger Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2017
    Messages:
    9,116
    Likes Received:
    6,362
    Location:
    Europe
    Yep, that's true. But I didn't want to mess around with the specific slopes of low cut, bell and shelf. And if they were too different, it would've been audible and spoil the comparison. I could at least choose the same slopes and values for the other EQs
     
  15. No Avenger

    No Avenger Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2017
    Messages:
    9,116
    Likes Received:
    6,362
    Location:
    Europe
    I'm not sure if I want that in my DAW.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • List
  16. dolphinhero6969

    dolphinhero6969 Noisemaker

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2019
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    4
    Soooo.. are the results available? Or can you PM me? :) Very curious
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • List
  17. Smoove Grooves

    Smoove Grooves Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2019
    Messages:
    5,184
    Likes Received:
    1,962
    Patience.
     
  18. Herr Tony

    Herr Tony Producer

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2017
    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    113
    No Avenger please share results and don't say TDR Nova is #2. :crazy:
     
  19. Smoove Grooves

    Smoove Grooves Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2019
    Messages:
    5,184
    Likes Received:
    1,962
    @Herr Tony Are you sure you accounted for the original source being the first?
     
    • Interesting Interesting x 1
    • List
  20. Herr Tony

    Herr Tony Producer

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2017
    Messages:
    192
    Likes Received:
    113
    Edit:
    Ok my FINAL guess goes like this:
    #0 ORIGINAL

    #1 TDR NOVA
    #2 Orange MAAT
    #3 DMG Equilibrium
    #4 DDMF LP10



    So far(Not final) for the nice audio track, it goes like this:
    #0 ORIGINAL

    #1 DMG
    #2 DDMF
    #3 TDR
    #4 Orange

    :crazy::crazy::crazy:
     
    Last edited: Apr 25, 2020
    • Like Like x 1
    • Interesting Interesting x 1
    • List
Loading...
Similar Threads - identify thEQorange (now Forum Date
please help me identify this omnisphere patch Omnisphere Oct 26, 2024
Help me identify these rack units Soundgear Oct 13, 2024
Identifying Empty Audio Tracks Among 100 Stems Software Aug 31, 2024
Please help identify a genre. Lounge Aug 6, 2024
Help identifying synth pad type how to make "that" sound Mar 4, 2024
Loading...