Ableton since like v4, protools and FL before too.
but abletons PDC sucks so much ass, makes me want to move to Cubase

Ableton is simpler and quicker vs cubase, but these days, how much can you customize and add shortcuts to cubase to make it "almost" as streamlined a workflow as ableton?

cubase v5: this was definitely not possible you see

 

Have no idea what you're talking about. Used Cubase for many ears (now switched to Studio One), tried using Live once, felt like it's slow and clumsy.
The point is, it's not DAW, it's your habits. And not knowing your habits, it's hard to answer your question. Like, okay, we know the starting point, but what's the desired result? What's fast for you, why is this piece of shDAW fast for you?

 

Dude, you're like, "my automatic transmission car doesn't shift right - the timing of the gears is off" so you want to switch manual transmission - but you don't want to have to shift the gears yourself.

 

In Reaper you can just make a script that shifts the gears for you.

 

Your analogy is baseless and weak, i shouldnt even respond as its spamming up my thread but i would like to say if you are such a cubase&live expert spend your time answering me what was asked plz

 

Reaper is so impressive. unfortunately the piano roll sucks major ass and thats a dealbreaker

 

Look, there are serious differences in DAWs right? menu diving is cubases forte

 

Thats exactly the kind of answer i was looking for. I get what you mean by key command macros, that could be the extra layer of complexity to facilitate tweaking both daws to execute the same tasks at the same workflow speed

Im going to go demo it again ( i have used v5 and ive seen lots of vids of v9 v10 etc)
hopefully it doesnt reject any plugins i like using

 

Latest version of Cubase no longer supports 32bit plugins so if thats important to you, you might need to consider using something like jbridge

 

Yeah, Reaper has some dealbreakers for me too but I'm not really that bothered by the piano roll. What is it about it that you don't like?

 

well thats unfortunate but ableton is equally shit in that regard

 

its very basic. midi note morphing, velocity meddling etc is not possible/user friendly

as far as looks, it looks the same as Logic v5 on PC

FL studio has the prettiest piano roll imo, not the best to use but close to the top

Bitwig probably has the most modern

Studio one, amazing daw, good piano roll but there is even more missing than if i moved to cubase

 

kinda a odd question im confused myself, what do ya mean? have you ever watched Charlie Brown? where the Teacher talks blah,blah,blah?

 

have you ever seen khabib smash somebody?

 

Fair enough. I agree it's ugly af but I like that I can customize it almost exactly how I want.

 

RPR V6 JUST introduced MIDI envelopes. That should help.

 

I'm surprised you all like to edit only in a piano roll. Don't you lot also have an Event Editor in your daw?
As, btw, Logic 5 did too!

 

Have you ever seen Khabib run scared from Tony Ferguson? Too many times - he's so chicken.

Can't wait til the rematch when Connor punches his face all the way back behind the iron curtain!

 

piano roll "and its flanking architecture" then.