Hi, folks, I have an old Kaoss Pad 2 that I want to set up to use but not much idea what goes where
I have my monitors connected to Babyface via XLR - Babyface - computer
I am not sure as to which/what goes where regarding connections to and from the KP2

Line IN - Dual RCA from KP2 to Keyboard?

Line OUT - Dual RCA to XLR from KP2 TO BBF?

I have two spare connections on the Babyface Line IN XLR female not being used
Or can if you connected via MIDI? you would still need to use the RCA's as well wouldn't you?
I also have to MIDI's cables connected to BBF but not plugged into anything what would be the best way?

 

I don't know what you want to achieve with your Kaoss pad.

***If you want to use it as an external insstrument does that:

You may connect the Line Out RCA of you Kaoss pad to the XLR In of your Babyface.This way you will be able to use your Kaoss pad as a hardware synth (or sampler,I don't know exactly what does this Kaoss pad).

You may also connect the midi Out of your Babyface to the midi In of your Kaoss Pad if you wish to sync the Kaoss pad to your computer or if you wish to send midi notes and automations from your computer to your Kaoss pad.

Connect the midi Out of your Kaoss pad to the midi In of your Babyface if you want to use your Kaoss pad as a midi keyboard/controller.

Don't touch the connection between your Babyface and your speakers.


***If you want to use your kaoss pad as a sampler for sampling the sound out of your computer or as an FX ,do that:

Connect the XLR Outs of your Babyface to the Line Ins (RCA) of your Kaoss pad,then connect the Line Outs of your Kaoss pad to your speakers.

Same midi connections as above ^^^.

But with your Babyface you can't send the sound from your computer to the Kaosspad and then loop back to your Babyface (for recording the "wet" sound) because your Babyface hasn't enough audio connections,unless you have an external Adat converter that provides a bunch of analog Ins/Outs.

 

Thanks, Blue sorry for not being very clear kaoss pad is effects/sampler I want to connect it to my keyboard so I can use the effects from the kp2 when playing the keyboard

 

So it's the second suggestion I wrote above.As I said,you can't use your Kaoss pad as an external FX (IF YOU WANT TO RECORD THE WET SIGNAL dry+FX,it's a very important point) because your Babyface hasn't enough analog I/O.
You can try to use the headphone outputs of your Babyface as a second pair of outputs if you can set these outputs to a "Line" level in Totalmix FX.I'm not sure it's possible to use simultaneously the headphones outpus and the XLR Mail Outpurs,though.
If you can,connect the headphone outputs of your Babyface to the RCA Line In of your Kaoss pad,then connect the RCA Line outs to the XLR Line Ins of your Babyface.

And connect the midi In/Out between the Babyface and your Kaoss pad.

Then you will need to configure the Inputs/Outputs and the midi I/O in your DAW.

 

Last edited: Apr 6, 2020

What is your keyboard ?? is it a midi keyboard or a synthesizer on its own ?

 

I have a Keylab 61 mkII and an old Microkorg XL, MP11se but that is mainly used for just playing on its own

You are from France maybe you have heard of this?
https://www.expressivee.com/buy-touche I also have one of these

 

Last edited: Apr 6, 2020

Ah ok,it's a midi keyboard.But how do you deal with the Microkorg,the MP11SE and the Kaoss pad currently?You can't play with all these instruments together,right?
The Babyface is a nice portable interface but it's too much limited in features (especially numbers of analog I/O) when you play with external gear.I had the Babyface some years ago and I sold it quickly.

And yes I do know the touché but I have never played with this thing.Is it cool/useful/worth the money,according to you?

 

If I was you I would buy another audio interface in place of your Babyface or I would look some Adat converter.You can find some cheap Presonus converters on the used market,for $200.

 

No, I do not try to play all these instruments together that would be nuts trying to do that

They are just what midi keys that I own so I would only use one at a time

i.e. microkorg+kaoss pad or keylab+kaoss pad

The mp11 is just used to learn piano but also it is midi if I ever decided to connect it to other things

Also, I have never used the touché although I have owned it for a long time because I don't know how to connect it to my keyboard

As you can see I do not know very much about these things this is why I ask for help

But still thanks Blue for trying to help

 

Ok.I have a bit of work LoL!
***We will start your configuration by connecting your Keylab 61 MKII.Please follow step by step my instructions.

The arturia Keylab is just a midi keyboard,so it hasn't any sound inside it like a synthesizer,for example your Microkorg or your Kaosspad.
A midi keyboard like your Keylab can just control another midi device such as a DAW in a computer or a synthesizer,a sampler...I repeat again,a midi keyboard doesn't produce any sound by itself,so it doesn't have any audio outputs!!!So you don't need any audio connections to make it work.
Man,read the user manual when you don't know what you have bought,it's the minimum you have to do...

So you must connect the keylab ONLY IN MIDI to your computer.Just connect your Keylab to your computer via a USB cable.THAT'S ALL,you don't need to connect anything else at this point.
I have been on the Arturia's website and obviously it seems you don't need to download any specific driver.It is plug and play.Your computer should install automatically the right drivers.

Now open your DAW (please tell me what DAW you use in your comment),go in the "preferences" or "options" menu and look in the midi tab if your Keylab is correctly recognized.It should,otherwise you need to "create" the "device" by selecting the Keylab and choose the right midi port (we connected your Keylab via a USB cable but it's considered as a midi IN and midi OUT port).Tell me if you have a problem for this task.

Once you have closed the preferences,create a midi track in your DAW with a synth plugin.Click on the red point of your track to enable the recording.Play some notes on your Keylab,it should work now.

***for connecting the Touché
Very simple,I read on internet it has a usb connection.So just connect it to your computer via a usb cable.
The touché is just another kind of midi controller,so like your Keylab it doesn't produce any sound by itself !!
I won't repeat the procedure,once you have connected the usb cable you need to check if the Touché is correctly recognized by your DAW.
Same procedure than your Keylab as I explained earlier in this message,go in preferences,etc...

Do this and tell me if you have any problem.Tell me what DAW you use,I could help you better.

 

Look some tutorials on Youtube for making your Keylab and the Touché working.I have read you need to download the Lié plugin for optimal use of the Touché.
https://www.expressivee.com/lie-discover

 

Last edited: Apr 7, 2020

Ok again thanks for the help and I should have read the manuals before now I am going to read them today

I know how to set up the keyboards to use with DAWs and enable them (I am using FL Studio)

A strange thing happened that didn't work last time I tried I plugged touche in via USB
It worked when playing around with ( LIE + workstation Vst ) using only mouse to hit keys and touche
Also tested using MPK mini and it is working I will try later with keylab etc

Last time I tried this it did not work by that I mean using touche and hitting keys gave me no response!

So all good there but what are the CV slots for (on touche) and how would you set them up to keyboard?

And if I was to connect touche via midi to keylab would It just be touche midi out > midi in keylab?

Do I even need to try to use them?

Having messed around with touche for 5 minutes I can say I believe it is going to be a lot of fun to use

The thing that I am not sure about is how to connect the kaoss pad to get it working with keylab at the same time ( like touche +keyboard but connecting them is a lot more simple )

I hope I have been clear in trying to explain thanks

 

You could try to connect the CV1 plug of the Touché to the Expression plug of your Keylab,connect the CV2 of the Touché to the Aux1 of your Keylab,the CV3 of the Touché to the Aux2 of the Keylab,and the CV4 of the Touché to the Aux3 of the Keylab.But you will probably need to configure the Keylab according to the voltage of the Touché.Have a look to their user manual for using them with CV.

You could try to connect the Touche midi out to the Keylab midi IN but unfortunately the Touché hasn't a standard midi DIN plug.


The best,easiest solution IMO would be to connect the Touché via USB to your computer.

I don't know/use/like FL studio,but like in any DAW,if you want to use both your Keylab (for playing notes) and your Touché (for modulations) you must select "enable all midi entries" for your midi track,and not select only "Keylab" or only "Touché".
Normally now (if you have connected the Touché via USB to the computer) when you move something on the Touché,FL should recognize it.Then map the Touché to any parameter on a plugin.It should work.I don't know how to proceed for mapping a controller to a plugin parameter,sorry.Look some tutorials on Youtube,you will find one for sure.

Try to download Lié too.It should be better and easier for mapping the Touché with your plugins.


Either you connect the Touché via USB OR via midi OR via CV,don't connect them all.

if you connect you kaoss pad via midi to your babyface,you will use it in FL like you use any plugin,I mean you will need to select "enable all midi entries" for this track.By doing that you should be able to use both your keylab and your Touché.

 

Last edited: Apr 8, 2020

Ok boss thank you for all the help

 

No problem mate,forums are a nice place when you need help!
I hope you will fully use your gear now