I've now recovered from COVID19. Here's my thank you and experience

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by smallboy15, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. Rorer

    Rorer Guest

    Here’s what the CDC says about the test for the Coronavirus
    March 24, 2020
    Straight from the horse’s mouth—both sides

    —The CDC (US Centers for Disease Control) admits the coronavirus test is flawed. That’s the overview and the takeaway—

    As my readers know, I’ve described why the widespread diagnostic test for the coronavirus is insufficient, misleading, useless, and deceptive.

    That test, used all over the world where it is available, is called the PCR.

    It DIAGNOSES patients. “Yes, you have the virus.” “No you don’t.”

    A very alert reader sent me a link to a US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) document about the test. The CDC establishes the guidelines for how the test should be done, and what the results mean.

    Here is a CDC paragraph about results. I suggest you read it several times.

    “Positive [test] results are indicative of active infection with 2019-nCoV but do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease. Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all positive results to the appropriate public health authorities.”

    I’m going to blow past the blatant contradiction in that CDC paragraph and cut to the chase.

    The key line in that paragraph is: “The agent detected [the coronavirus] may not be the definite cause of disease.”

    BANG.

    CDC: Yeah, you see, folks, ahem, the test could say the coronavirus is there in somebody’s body, but the virus may not be causing disease…

    On one level, the CDC is admitting the test could turn up false positives: the test could SAY a patient has the coronavirus, but he really doesn’t.

    This isn’t a footnote stuck at the bottom of a report. It’s right there near the top of the section about the meaning of the test.

    On a deeper level, the CDC is saying straight out, IF THE TEST SHOWS A CORONAVIRUS IS PRESENT, THAT DOESN’T MEAN IT’S CAUSING DISEASE.

    Well, yes, I’ve pointed out that the test has an inherent problem. At best, it might show that a virus is present in the patient’s body. But the test is incapable of determining HOW MUCH virus is ACTIVELY REPLICATING in the patient’s body.

    And why is that important? Because, to even begin to say a virus is causing actual illness in a human, there would have to be millions and millions of a virus replicating in his body—and the PCR test has never been proven, in the real world, to be able to make such a judgment call accurately.

    But, if you read that CDC quote again, you’ll see the CDC is ordering labs to report a positive test result to public health agencies—where it will be counted as a “coronavirus case” come hell or high water.

    Thank you, CDC. So very, very much. The next ship for Uranus leaves tomorrow. Pile on board and make the trip. You can run tests there to your heart’s content.

    This link will take you to a page with a number of links. Scroll down until you reach the link titled, “CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel Instructions for Use.” That’s the one.
     
  2. Adamdog

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    nobody can see the bodies, they're in sealed coffins. The family isn't allowed to see their dead relatives, just the coffin.
    No that's not a fake. 6000 bodies. They will never show up again. They are dead...

    About the PCR testing: PCR can show phalse positives for sure, the solution is double testing after sometime.
    PCR testing is used for animal deseases too, for cats HIV (Fiv) and leukemia (Felv) and it can show phalse positives in some cases so you have to double test them, most of the times with a cheaper test (Elisa test).

    but there's even more... if you totally recover you can still test positive and so contagious
    a famous italian anchor man has been sick for 5 days, then recovered and feel very well for a week, but the second test was positive, after two weeks. So if you had the virus and then recover, wait before party!
     
  3. tun

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    none of us know for sure there are even bodies in those trucks.
     
  4. Adamdog

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    I see
     
  5. tun

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    :mates:
    stay safe <3
     
  6. Adamdog

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    I don t move from home, no way! it will take some week, I can do it, no prob
    many countries are on a total lockdown right now and it will prevent the mess we ve been through here
    I hope all the people from all the countries of this forum will be well
    we ll move on soon
     
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    I can't tell "think POSITIVE" cause it would sound sinister LOL but think healthy... Yes!!
     
  8. karamuzas

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    Hey smallboy15,are you ok?How is your health?Please write a few words.Is everyone of you alright?Your girlfriend,her parents...I 'm interested to know.
     
  9. Giuby

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    Hello I write from Piacenza Emilia Romagna an area heavily affected by Covid 19 unfortunately the images are true also for us because of the too many dead containers with cold cells for corpses have arrived because they are accumulating. The numbers of the dead do not take into account those who die at home and in the hospital do not have time to arrive. Containment measures were not taken immediately in the emergency rooms of the most affected areas when the first cases arrived and the virus spread.
     
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  10. ontschoeit

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    I had a breathing thing going on last week. It was like 2 or 3 times that I just couldn't breathe for a moment. Like as if it was something psychological, maybe I was just mad. As if the command from brain didn't go into execution for whatever reason. Did not happen again.

    So I wonder what the breating problems of infected people exactly look like.
     
  11. twoheart

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    Most likely not, mate. :mates:
    The late symptoms of CoViD-19 are very similar to pneumonia. In the beginning, the viruses are found in large masses in the upper respiratory tract and cause sore throat and coughing. In the later (serious) course, typical symptoms of pneumonia occur, a general feeling of illness, high fever, muscle pain and often a change in taste (a distinguishing feature of CoViD-19) develop. In many (serious) cases, the virus is now diagnosed using imaging techniques of the lungs.
    So far my daughter, who is a biologist.
    I had asked her about it because I myself also (thought I) had a few symptoms, but they disappeared.
    Not every cold is CoViD-19, but right now we're all on edge.
     
  12. s4m

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    I am very concerned about this disease since I am only 34yrs and have underlying health condition. I have controlled hypertension and that scares me a lot
     
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    great mix up bacteria and virus detection...woohhoo
     
  14. Gyro Gearloose

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    quit msm...stay at home...
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    the body believes what brain is saying...when you run 24/7 shit program in your brain you will get sick..its like self destruction button from nature...
    so get youre mindset right
     
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