Epic composers, recommend me a choir library

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  1. Ikagura

    Ikagura Producer

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    I'm looking for a good male choir, something loud and powerful, kinda like Metropolis Ark 3 of choir libraries with very strong almost percussive marcato/staccato.
    I really love the choir section from Metropolis Ark 1 and 2, especially when combined together, but it lacks punchiness, accent on the notes that I want to really cut through the mix.

    All recommendations are appreciated, thank you.

     
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  3. esteban

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    how about strezov sampling wotam?


     
  4. beatroot

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    EASTWEST Hollywood Choirs
     
  5. Ikagura

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    Wotan is a beautiful library, I like it a lot but unfortunately it lacks that punch that I'm looking for.

    Sounds interesting but how's the Play Engine? Anyone have any experience with it? I haven't used it in almost a decade now and back then it was a very unstable mess.
     
  6. When you say 'punch' I gather you mean thickness in the sound as in body?
    I have a few and use them differently. Sometimes I will split it if it is hand-written into women and men and use a men's choir and a woman's choir.
    Often that is enough, but if it is not and I want to hear a slight separation like it is semi-real, I will add the voxos 2 choir and use random syllables with voxos slightly down in the mix. It does feel real if there is an orchestra with it or a rhythm bed.
    If you want it even more spread across the tone spectrum, add a children's choir doubling parts on a separate track.
    If you really want it so thick that it is a wall of sound, add Project Sam's Pandora choir overlaid on top, it is very fat. but only if syllables are not required because it is not useful for that purpose.

    I tendto have a syllable based choir and one other as a default and add salt and pepper as required :) Whatever works best for what you seek.
     
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    Real choir for sure can't compete with real brass or drums, so cutting through the mix is not realistic expectation. Work on your gain structure and orchestration. Requiem and Storm choir are renown for epic music composing, focusing on the loud dynamics, but maybe there are new libraries that also do it.
     
  8. Trurl

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    There's the old Voices of the Apocalypse... super primitive word builder, but great for oooh/ahhs though
     
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    8Dio Lacrimosa sounds pretty cool, but beware with the samples that come at least in the cr*cked version. They are 96Khz, diet recommended.
     
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    I've got the three 8Dio choirs: Lacrimosa (epic choir), Insolidus (programmable phrasing) and Liberis (children's choir), although I've tried out Olympus and others. The 8Dio stuff works really nicely together and pretty much sounds as good and can do most of what the EastWest stuff can do without the hassle of PLAY (which has never been k'd, so you'll either have to buy it or subscribe to it, anyway).

    PLAY is pretty rock-solid, but it's now geared towards subscriptions and its online store.
     
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  11. Ikagura

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    Sorry, should have better clarified myself. By "punch" I mean the definition of the syllables, the clarity and tightness. Like I mentioned, Metropolis Ark 1 and 2 give me a great sound, very thick and big, and I like it a lot but it's just a bit too "muddy" and the close mics are too "roomy", so turning them up or even soloing them doesn't help at all.
    Also it completely falls apart with faster passages even at 1/8 notes at 120 bpm.
    I guess I'm looking for a library with very harsh dry sound (kinda like Jaeger) to layer it with other libraries I have or a smaller ensemble recorded in a small room, or at least a library that has some dryish close mics.
    Well, I'm sh#t out of luck I guess because I want male only something like Soviet Red Army choir.
    Thank you for suggestions and tips, I'll check out Voxos.

    Sorry, bad wording on my part, by "cutting through the mix" I've meant the clarity not the volume.
    Yes I know this is completely unrealistic expectation, that's why I'm looking for a library and not recording a real choir. And thanks for recommendations, I think I have Requiem, and I've heard a lot of good things about Storm Choir, so I'll check it out as well.

    Thank you both, Lacrimosa kinda looks like it might work out.
     
  12. Trurl

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    Ah. Well never mind what I said about VOA then :rofl:
     
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    You know, if you just take what you have and then carefully mix even 2 humans per part singing in with it, way back in there, you'd probably sh*t yourself. That's what I do.
     
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    AudioBro Genesis?!?
     
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    Storm Choir 2 by Strezov Sampling is amazing. Or Performance Samples' Oceania is also pretty good. It's lightweight and lacks some customization (you literally just can choose a mic and longs / shorts / legato), but it sounds very epic; maybe check that out too!
     
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    Yeah, if you're only going to have one choir, Lacrimosa is definitely the one to get It's even got some phrasing stuff.
     
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    I have the Play Engine 6 with Storm Drum 1,2, Stormdrum 3,Spaces 1 and 2 and a few others.No issues.All working fine.Love it.
     
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    I'm doing an epic track right now and using Voxos, sounds pretty punchy to me although I'm no specialist in the genre. I never heard of Lacrimosa until I read this thread. After watching the youtube videos I badly want it, can't find it anywhere though.
     
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