The Quadro is unnecessary and it's also an outdated card. The CPU integrated Intel HD graphics is more than good enough.

 

Intel® Core™ i9-10900X X-series Processor

From the above product info link: Processor Graphics N/A

 

Not any more. Thunderbolt is now open to all platforms including Ryzen (amd) processors. https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X570 Creator/index.asp

 

FFS you ain't no kin to Daskeladden is you?

 

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it's all in the drivers, how well they are implemented. i run a presonus audiobox itwo with studio one (they integrate) with ZERO latency through effects, similar to the unison on UAD.

 

1) RME AIO does NOT have microphone preamps, so you can't really plug microphone directly into it, that's a big complication I see
if you need mic input(s), Babyface Pro does have 2 "combo" XLR/TRS inputs which are designed that way
2) MIDI is fine, should work without problems, there's regular MIDI IN and MIDI OUT connectors
3) 6.3 hmm this really depends on their wirings - if you have BALANCED or UNBALANCED line inputs/outputs:

this breakout (unbalanced, cinch) is already included with AIO package:
https://www.rme-shop.com/acatalog/RME---Analog-breakout-cable--unbalanced-31.html

this breakout (balanced, XLR) needs to be purchased separately (thomann has old revision image, difference is just newer Neutrik connectors):
https://www.rme-shop.com/acatalog/RME---Analog-breakout-cable--balanced---B0-9632---XLRMKH-5.html

"jack" connector on those breakouts is for Phones, and is a separate "AUX" path in TotalMix, so can be used for separate second set of casual unbalanced monitors or any other device eventually

 

are you a retard or something?

 

Something, Rain Man.

 

Wrong. We discussed that topic some months ago .. -> http://audiosex.pro/threads/which-cpu-in-2019.45271/page-3#post-412238

 

Latency is in audiointerface, any modern USB audiointerface easy gives you 2-5 msec delay

 

As @korte1975 already said, it's all about the drivers. With the appropriate audio interface you can achieve stable RT latencies of less than 1ms even on a 10 year old pc. And that even via the usb2 protocol.

In my case the shortest possible stable software RTL is 0.78ms at 176.4khz.
Normally I don't go lower than 1.7ms RT at 88.2khz during a 32-channel recording session, because even a drummer doesn't notice any latency. Every modern processor is able to guarantee an equal and better performance.

 

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Thanks a lot for the advice! So as I understand it the XLR plugs are used for monitor speakers and input? The 6.3mm input was meant to be an unbalanced guitar input. So I would have to get some ADDA box to transform the signal to digital, I guess? Sry for the noob questions - up to now I could just use the 6.3mm jacks on my interface.

I would consider the Babyface if it does not add too much to latency (USB vs pci-e sounds like a lot of difference, but if it's just about the drivers...) otherwise I would get a preamp, but the ones with reasonable quality seem to be quite expensive.

Wow that sounds amazing! If that is the case could I build much cheaper and take something like a Ryzen 3600X with an Asus Prime X-470 Pro Mainboard and still achieve those kinds of latencies without cracking noises from too little computing-power for modern vstis?

Also what audio-interfaces below 1000€ are most recommendable in this case? Can the Babyface Pro achieve those kinds of latencies? Driverwise RME seems to have a really good reputation.

 

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Note that I was talking about audio recording. Not of virtual instruments.
So that depends on how performance-hungry the vsti are. With a few divas it could become already problematic.

That depends on your other needs. As far as pure performance is concerned, I swear by the new motu devices. M2, M4 or 828es for example...

The BabyfacePro isn't as fast as some newer representatives. But about 1,5ms at 176,4khz should be enough for music production and it offers a lot for its money.

 

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yea XLR inputs and outputs on AIO are just meant for balanced LINE wiring,

if you wanna use guitar directly, keep in mind there's different impedance and level compared to line input - this is where many interfaces (like Focusrite and others) fail to provide good quality "instrument" inputs

 

Computers are the worst investment ever.. well some coastal land in Florida is comparable Get what you can get by with.. top line stuff will be surely outdated in a short time span 2 years which is typical.. invest in something that give you a good ROI ..buy a classic instrument. It will go up in value. Stay clear of trying to be at the top of the IT rat race.. manufactures will always win and you as a consumer will always lose.. Get last years models specs/cpu's way cheaper and do that every two years or each year if you want the hassle. Turning around your old gear for some cash is smart.. Reinvest it in the same last year specs..again the game is setup in a way you will never win.. Greedy wannabee top spec people always wanting the last tweaks and betterment's..benchmarks and fashionable bits.. Are just that... crutches.. Oh and Thunderbolt, USB 4.0 or USB 2.0 Fire-wire 400... pci cards. Who gives a flying fuck if it works it works.. spend time on connecting cables to gear that can be recorded and not to CPU's power supplies and pci cards.. I have many old skool musician friends that make amazing music on 2009 machines running out of date OS and software.There shit sounds stunning mainly because there concerned with making music and not concerned on the tech side of how it all happens in the box.. inside or out.. You can create great tracks on anything if you indeed are creative.. now that is a great ROI !!!!.....my 2 cents..

 

Let's see. First of all, computers consist of an investment when you 're talking about a company who buys them by the hundreds. For the rest of us musician and producers here, no matter which level of expertise, they are just tools or our trade or hobby just like our guitars and pianos etc.
You came to this thread which belongs to the "computer hardware" dept of this forum to advise the peeps here not to invest on computer hardware because ROI is bad? Looks to me you haven't been watching these threads long enough nor you will ever from what you are saying. I will comment that very few people here (if any), are looking forward to be at the top of the IT race. Most people are looking for the most cost effective solution to make/produce their music and perhaps some answers to occurring problems with their comps/soft. Thing is, what are you doing here ?

Cpus and pci cards are considered musical gear here and in all other places where DAW/plugins usage are everyday conversation subjects.
The "last tweaks and betterments" etc., are for people who understand their usage, not the average joe, and certainly not "technophobics" who will oppose their existence and usefulness with arguments like ROI, which is you obviously.
Lastly, keep the flying fucks for yourself mate. People who start threads in this part of the forum are either to be technologically informative or to solve a problem they are having. If you don't care, be on your way outta here please.
Cheers

 

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I'm updating my computer as we speak, and I don't agree with it being pointless. You just have to take into consideration one thing:

- Computer, cars and smartphones are the goods that devaluate the fastest.

With that clear, I do with computers the same I do with cars. BUY USED. The amount of money you save is huge. Not everyone needs the last tech to make music, and we help our poor planet a bit by reusing stuff. I'm gonna depict an empirical example:

i7 8700k CPUs had very positive reviews and newer models did little improvement. These can be had for 250€ atm. So let's start there. Now, Asus Z370 motherboards support W7 (it says so in the documents, just use the w10 installers). If we take a look at their hi-end motherboards we see they were 70€ apart in pricing, but only around 20€ used so you can easily get a 2 year old top of the range motherboard for +100€ on eBay. More basic models like a Z370-A can be had for 50€. So you're paying more than half for 2-year old tech, which performs like 10% worse at best.

 

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DANTE! Dante all the way. Anyone serious enough about achieving the lowest possible latency will try to not utilize USB or Thunderbolt in their system. The answer is DANTE. Two years ago I decided to move away from utilizing USB and Thunderbolt. About 3 months ago I was able to accomplish that. Besides low latency,DANTE's routing flexibility and system expandability are virtually unlimited. I believe the future is in DANTE not Thunderbolt.

 

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