Multiple midi clip envelope control?

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    You can use virtual MIDI to do this.
    In Live's MIDI settings, enable the REMOTE INPUT and the TRACK OUTPUT for your virtual MIDI cable.
    MIDI-map your device parameter with a controller or an M4L device to assign it a CC number. Set the MIDI From to your virtual MIDI port on the device track and the MIDI To on the envelope track to the same port.
    Now create a MIDI Ctrl envelope set to whatever CC you assigned the parameter.

    Here's an M4L device that does basically the same thing.
     
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    Thank You very much for Your help quadcore64 and Pinkman!

    I thinking the same way as You Pinkman ,and I have MidiYoke as a virtual midi cable,and there are some midi jitter in the timing in this way.
    I just hoped there is an easier or convinient way to do this inside Ableton not with third party program.

    Interesting I can send midi notes from multiple channels to one synth,but I cannot control the other parameters via envelopes,don't really understand why is it missing in Ableton.
     
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    Weird. I'm on a mac and have no jitter. What happens if you use a physical MIDI cable? Same cable; OUT to IN into your interface..? Check out http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software.html and try using that driver and virtual MIDI.
     
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    Thank You for the link,I am on Windows 7,the loopmidi seems more precise than the midijoy,but if I zoom in to the grids I can still see some timing error,

    https://kepkuldes.com/image/heUzt5



    I have a RME UCX sound card,with real midi cable result is similar like the virtual.I experienced the midi timing is not the most stable thing in the world.
    I think I will send notes from Inside Ableton midi tracks to VST synths etc,becouse it's accurate,and I'll go with cc modulation-virtual midi way to parameters,and I will call the cc jitter (if it is really audible) to human elements in the music :)

    Thanks for the replies!!!

    Best wishes!
     
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    Ctrl+4 to disable Grid Snap will allow you to draw a smoother envelope.
     
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