the good times are over , also for win

Discussion in 'Education' started by Gyro Gearloose, Nov 8, 2019.

  1. AudioSimple

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    One day on Microsoft website:
    Windows 10 Kill Switch is released: Say goodbye to ilegal downloads.

    The day after on warez and torrent websites:
    Download Windows 10 Kill Switch Cracked: Ignore Windows 10 Kill Switch Anti-piracy policies.
    Download Windows 10 Kill Switch Removal Tool: Kick Microsoft's ass and keep downloading whatever you want.
    Download Windows 10 Downloader Edition: Install Windows without Windows 10 Kill Switch.

    Piracy will never die.
     
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  2. uhub

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    Haha, TeamOS, Gen2 There To Do First. Keep an eye on MDL tho :winker:
     
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    The problem for Microsoft will be legal jurisdiction

    In order to enforce their policy they would have to ensure no breach of the jurisdiction the pc resides in ( eg censorship, due process etc)

    its a bit like Hollywood try to implement their view of the law in every country in the world( and no one takes kindly to be told what their law should be )

    .. and I also think the day MS try this on is the day an alternative will replace it

    I read last year( or maybe 2 years ago) that the city of Munich replaced all their MS software with alternatives( they got fed up with exorbitant costs and controls from MS)
     
  4. Xupito

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    Like @Andrew said, it is true that it's difficult to tweak a Windows 10 without bloat/spyware. If it only was when you install... but you also have to maintain...
    I've found a nice middle ground at Windows 8. You get rid of the miserable Windows Phone/mobile/modern/whatever UI mode and that's it.
    That being said, there're cool features in Windows 10.
     
  5. Gyro Gearloose

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    you dont get it...its in the update forcing...its not about common protection ..
    sure piracy wont die ..noone said it would btfw
    also enterprise ltsc team os is buggin...team os...doesnt make audio lites btw...
    i kno enough ppl who roll back cause NI and other top dog stuff will call home and make itself unusable ...even old stuff which never called will call on newest shit...
    first :do you think tone2 was allowed to use the tactics he used...
    second : the thing you talk bout has nothing to do which the new tactics
     
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  6. Gyro Gearloose

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    like a nerd ....and they will multiply it day by day....
     
  7. taskforce

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    @Xupito
    I prefered to write yet another one so info will be more accessible. I copy paste from a recent article i was reading just the other week on the well known web publication Tom's Hardware:
    "Intel currently has 242 publicly disclosed vulnerabilities, while AMD has only 16."
    "AMD's CPUs, including the latest Ryzen and Epyc processors, are immune to: Meltdown (Spectre v3), Spectre v3a, LazyFPU, TLBleed, Spectre v1.2, L1TF/Foreshadow, SPOILER, SpectreRSB, MDS attacks (ZombieLoad, Fallout, RIDL), SWAPGS"
    No reason to mention more about these, the winner in cpu security is obvious here. Also looking into this through some quick search i did, Google has mentioned what i said about Intel cpus being non secure since much earlier than 2008, as it is widely believed:
    "Google has reported that any Intel processor since 1995 with out-of-order execution is potentially vulnerable to the Meltdown vulnerability (this excludes Itanium and pre-2013 Intel Atom CPUs). Intel introduced speculative execution to their processors with Intel's P6 family microarchitecture with the Pentium Pro IA-32 microprocessor in 1995"

    Me, i'm sold on the new AMD TR3. The small one, being released at November 25th will have 24 cores/48 threads @ 3.8 ghz/boost to 4.5ghz, up to 88 pci-e lanes and a jaw-dropping 140mb L2/L3 cache for the cost of about 1300 dlrs. The series will not be compatible with the previous threadripper socket as it is more demanding since it now includes pci-e gen.4 by default. Surely spending about 1800-2000 dlrs for a cpu and mobo is not what you would call a bargain, but comparing what's on offer from AMD's HEDT platform to Intel's HEDT and the decision could never be more easy, at least for me...

    As for the OP:
    Personally, i couldn't care less about what MS will bring to the table, most likely whatever they introduce, it will be cracked. They have been on the wrong path for much too long (win8-8.1-10 are all hilarious remixes of win 7) and i don't see them coming back anywhere soon, since within MS there at least two very different groups of employees, people concerned should focus on. One is the really talented programmers and the other is the suits lobby. The "suits" group which has been nurtured since the Bill Gates days is calling the shots on anything MS, and these peeps seem to have no other talent than -for lack of a better word- lobbying. Now if anyone knows a thing or two about how software is being released, you 'd know that programmers never get to finish their job on time. Because the suits (and not just the suits in MS) always want releases on their fictitious time table (which should mean money table really, because delivering the product on time gets them their bonuses) . And there we are, all end users, being forever perpetual beta testers and paying for it.
    Cheers :)
     
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  8. Xupito

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    That's true but let's be realistic: happens also in Mac OS.

    It's well known the OS money moved from PCs to smartphones years ago. Windows 7 was the last OS released when the main moneymaker was PC software. Windows 8 is the prime example. They tried to sell us an smartphone UI for the desktop PCs.

    But actually we PC/Windows users are still lucky because MSoft lost the mobile battle miserably. That's why Windows 10 UI is better than Windows 8 (if you don't get rid of the Mobile UI). Once you get rid of Cortana and a couple more things you can run Windows 10 with the same minimum requirements than Windows 7 (Core2 2Ghz, 2GB RAM). Nobody seems to appreciate that. I do.

    As for the security, that's the dark side of it. They don't care much. Spyware: the same shit than with Google/Apple and at least we know more about it.
     
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  9. taskforce

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    Hmmm, yes but with a difference, macOs is free and Windows is not. Users who know their way around the "digital domain" will buy a Win10 OEM license for ~15 bucks (or even better 5 licenses for 45-50) and be on their way, but this is NOT what most people pay for Windows.
    And with macOS introducing new technologies like AFS, NTFS has started to seem quite anachronistic.
    Imho, the vast majority of Win10 features that don't exist in Win7, is useless S.H.I.T. (Stupidly Hazardous Irrelevant Trash) :rofl:
    The few good things they have introduced like i.e. Storage Spaces, are lost within the user confusing gui, the two very different control panels, and sub settings like group policies etc etc. And for those who wil lstep in and say anything about the 2 different control panels, MS themselves had announced in 2014 and prior to W10's release that they would unify the two in one convenient app/window. It was actually being touted as one of W10's best new feats over W8.1, lol.
    Someone must tell them what users appreciatte most is consistency. And W10 has a serious identity problem which instead of being fixed overtime it becomes more bloated.
    Just my two cents mate :D
     
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  10. mp5

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    If they really do this, Bill Gates will lose at least 10 billion $ within a day, in Microsoft shares only. And I'm very confident that Bill truly loves and takes good care of his billions.
    Cheer up, don't rush back to Win 7, luckily the money did not change him that badly, he respects money, like everybody else.
     
  11. lasteno

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    that is True.
     
  12. Xupito

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    @taskforce , basically I agree with you, only that I've a too realistic/pessimistic point of view of the human race.
    When people say "we're destroying the planet, we suck as a species" I say "true, that's why I find amazing that after 50+ years we haven't completely blown it up with nuclear weapons yet".

    Only partially true, it's part of the indivisible Mac package.

    Yeah, it sucks big time. Linux and especially apple are like light years ahead. I was even surprised that NTFS supports hard links when I noticed it two years ago with the no install releases (I use Linux for work since ages). That pretty much sums up my expectations with Microsoft.

    But they're easier in Windows Servers, aren't they? At least the multi-tier feature. Not sure about this.
     
  13. Gyro Gearloose

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    could you open new win 10 thread and show a bit...
    there will be coming more together
     
  14. taskforce

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    Oh yeah, the tweaks are easier in WinServer 2019, sort of. I 'd call them more detailed and infinitely larger in number. Still, it is not for everyone. An uninitiated user would be lost in the plethora of mandatory and optional tweaks. Power users though will find some useful technologies there like Storage Replica (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...-replica/server-to-server-storage-replication) and Windows Admin Center. I really like this last one to be honest, it includes a very comprehensive window imho. Looks like this:
    server-overview.png
    And finally for those who have money to burn Windows Server 2019 supports up to 24tb of ram. :crazy:
    Again i will say it is not for all. Everyone else should be fine working with W10 LTSC. This one should be the best for those who want to tweak once and don't have to re-tweak anytime soon. With W10 LTSC you get W10 Pro functionality but receive updates only twice a year. This way you don't have to worry about if the next MS update will break your sys (at least for 6 months hahaha). A couple of weeks ago i posted how to get an OEM Win10 LTSC license key for less than 14 dlrs.
    https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/promo-urcdkey-halloween-sale-windows-10-pro-for-11,1.html
    Even if the discount has expired, normal price should be about 17 dlrs.
    Cheers:D
     
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  15. Xupito

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    Isn't there one already? Even so, I never tried seriously newer versions than v1709. It's the one I trust.

    I'd use LTSC/LTSB, a pity very few but important programs I use (mainly Visual Studio) require the regular Windows 10...
    Anyways, my Windows 10 tweaked (still backupped though I now use 8) was pretty much like the LTSB version. AFAIK
     
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    There are some steps to take with the LTSC version but afaik it can be done by:
    1. Download & install MS Store (yeah i know it's a bummer, but you should be able to uninstall it afterwards).
    https://github.com/kkkgo/LTSB-Add-MicrosoftStore
    2. From the Store, dl and install Visual Studio '17 or whatever. You will need a viable MS account to do so.
    Cheers mate :)
    PS: For the step one dl adress, LTSC is just the newer version of LTSB so no worries there. It should run properly. For those who don't understand what LTSB/C Windows versions are:
    https://techcommunity.microsoft.com...-is-it-and-when-should-it-be-used/ba-p/293181
     
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  17. Xupito

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    Very interesting, but for me is a must:
    - No store
    - No MS account whatsoever
    - Install offline

    Anyway, still would need to replace the start menu and other stuff. But good to know.
     
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    Some more info on this https://www.ad.nl/tech/onderzoekers-vu-intel-loog-over-oplossen-lek-in-chips~acb207e0/

    "Last May, when Intel released a patch for a group of security vulnerabilities researchers had found in the company’s computer processors, Intel implied that all the problems were solved.

    But that wasn’t entirely true, according to Dutch researchers at Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam who discovered the vulnerabilities and first reported them to the tech giant in September 2018. The software patch meant to fix the processor problem addressed only some of the issues the researchers had found.

    It would be another six months before a second patch, publicly disclosed by the company on Tuesday, would fix all of the vulnerabilities Intel indicated were fixed in May, the researchers said in a recent interview."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/technology/intel-chip-fix.html
     
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