Are you able to remove Grooves from your music?

Discussion in 'Education' started by Neuralgia, Nov 11, 2019.

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  1. scrappy

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    absolutely, sacerdotally, unmetabridgedly meaningless tosh.

    just like this answer.
     
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  2. naitguy

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    Historical fact: Once the allies killed Hitler, Stella got her groove back. Music has never been the same since.

    ..or not.
     
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  3. DrumHead

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    It's really comes across as Foster. Same type of TRoll statements as the past
    Also his style of hit and run. Make a thread never respond.
    I guess Radioactive Fallout has Retired. If it smells like a Foster then..........
     
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    What is this – flat earthers trying to infiltrate music theory now?
     
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  6. Moonlight

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    Music without groove is (imo) cold.
     
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    only a foster can pull this shit :woot: burn it with fiya!
     
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  9. xoso

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    This thread is a joke right? Music tastes change with societal changes. and no groove before WWII? bwahahahahaha.

    I think your knowledge of music and music history is just too limited.
     
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    and I'm just gonna drop this historically ALL music even coming from Africa has always been groove oriented including almost all of the most primitive styles of music for history. The groove you think doesn't exist is just your taste in music and not being able to empathize with it or feel it. Doesn't mean it's missing groove. lol
     
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  11. Talmi

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    More and more genre are locked to the grid, I'm sure that's something you love OP....Even hip-hop, with the trap thingy, is loosing it...
    But it was there from the beginning, so it will probably be there till the end...Just like you foster, just like you.
     
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    Im thinking its more like he has absolutely no knowledge of music and music history actually..
     
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    We have a very different understanding of what groove is. The way i see it:
    Timing is math and can be learned, it depends on given, fixed, finite values. But groove is NOT timing but rather the feel and/or sense of it. And this means it depends on how each and every person grasps and reproduces the same given rhythm which can be entirely different, from spectacular and unique to underwhelming, mechanical or even downright lifeless.
    Most important here, is not the math which is where the notes fall within timing rhythmically, but how each player can make these same notes flow, which can be perceived as "groovy" or not. That is why the groove, largely depends on a musician's charisma/talent or lack of it. I 've had dancers with no musical training who have more groove than some properly trained drummers i know lol. And you say its math, i say its fkn "chemistry" alright hehehe.
    So,in a nutshell we don't learn to "groove", but we can rather feel it or not.
    Theoretically, if you start adding and calculating factors like timing in ms or even smaller, varying timbre and tuning changes in hz cents, ever-changing volume and dynamics (which may also affect timbre), micro-tempo changes etc., you can say groove could be explained by analyzing those parameters in each person's rendition of a given track. That is without adding any psychological factor of liking or not what they play which affects each player's performance as well, even the most professional ones.
    And because i have done this experiment myself too many times, trying to analyze how each player plays the very same rhythm differently, this analysis would require every musician on the planet to be thorough.
    At the bottom line, if this was as easy as 1,2,3,4 we wouldn't have so much grooveless, stupidly "square" music surrounding us, imho.
    Cheers
     
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    By saying bridge, I've made things short, I can and do play / write quiet melodic lines on bass of course.
    I understand what you mean, listen to Jerry Preston with Maceo Parker , his bass is a second melody in the arrangement, and at the same time it's a complement to the drum.

     
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    Grooves are dangerous viruses that whenever music is infected with any of them, no one can do anything to help it. Poor music...:sad:
     
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    you trippin....give me an example !

    which genre you talkin bout...
     
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    the bankster 1% elite club did conquer the whole world.
    thats a fact
     
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    lmao why does this site get so many of these fucking people

    why don't i see threads like this anywhere else
     
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  20. Olymoon

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    Because we are tolerant.
    There is no reason to prohibit such threads, while anyone is completely free to ignore them.

    Think about Audiosex like an immense place with many many rooms, the title of each thread is a door where what is discussed inside the room is written, and no one is forced to go into the room.
     
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