When enough BS is enough!

PlzNo · Oct 10, 2019

Yep.

filtersweep · Oct 10, 2019

Isn't it a little ironic that the OP is opining the dearth of 'music related' posts whilst making just such a post that has nothing to do with music either?
If somone is off-topic then you have the choice to not engage or have a moderator deal with it. It seems odd to post short tempered missives like Pirate has done here. It's also a little strange that he is scouring through peoples comment histories to try and support his ( unrelated to making music) comments. Just don't give these 'comments' oxygen. or get moderators to sort it out.

Boosire · Oct 10, 2019

God this is creepy

jhagen · Oct 10, 2019

Boosire said: ↑

God this is creepy
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as hell

recycle · Oct 10, 2019

Confession
A troll hereby declare:

Guys, if on this forum I were to take seriously your useless tech-hints, your pointless suggestion on the new miracle VST plugin, your boring trance track on soundcloud etc.. I should crush you all under the heel of my boot, like cockroaches.

unfortunately my position as a democratic and tolerant man won't let me do it

therefore, I decide that:
I give you my permission to tell your everyday nonsense here on audiosex, in exchange of my freedom to troll

signed by Recycle: the one who has the biggest balls of all in here

rudolph · Oct 10, 2019

recycle said: ↑

Confession
A troll hereby declare:

Guys, if on this forum I were to take seriously your useless tech-hints, your pointless suggestion on the new miracle VST plugin, your boring trance track on soundcloud etc.. I should crush you all under the heel of my boot, like cockroaches.

unfortunately my position as a democratic and tolerant man won't let me do it

therefore, I decide that:
I give you my permission to tell your everyday nonsense here on audiosex, in exchange of my freedom to troll

signed by Recycle: the one who has the biggest balls of all in here
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Period.

A Ghost On The Moon · Oct 10, 2019

jhagen said: ↑

Hey Pirat, I think you are right those threads are really annoying.

On AZ why not to exclude non music related treads in the Audiosex feed?
Probably many of us just comes from AZ to comment, after many ours in music related stuff changing topic once in while could be refreshing and so that stupid treads get longer.
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This man is living in 3005 and everyone is just ignoring the fact he dropped the ONLY smart solution for this problem

Radioactive Fallout · Oct 10, 2019

@Von_Steyr you see, as I said without those withouts, everything gets personal and nothing great comes out.

Whenever we learn to divorce and disassociate extra accessories from the art, in that case, maybe sth positive comes our way.

A Ghost On The Moon · Oct 10, 2019

littlewierdo said: ↑

As someone who experienced this first hand, and I even have several that "follow" me to be the first to jump on any new tracks that I create (just go look at two threads I started where I posted new tracks, Amazing Grace and Bossa Nova pieces) that turned into a complete shit show, I feel like the constructive criticism I get is behind the scenes.

There is an old saying in America, yes, that is where I live, piss off with your opinions of my country, but I digress, the old saying goes something like this; All it takes is one rotten apple to spoil the bunch. This saying I think is very appropriate here. A decent community exists here, but a few have no idea how to provide constructive criticism.

Since I believe in accountability, attached is one screenshot of an actual PM I received from members in this community that give you an idea of the toxicity. This is just one such PM, I have more, as well as screenshots from the thread where my music was shit all over because they could not keep their political views to themself. I have printed the entire conversation to a pdf, you can PM me and I will be happy to send the entire conversation to you and you can tell me if anything I said warranted this.

Now, how do we improve the situation? Screw keeping these people anonymous. Call them out by name. Call out bad behavior for what it is. If you see it, call them on it. Music is a powerful medium, even if it is used for political motives. Anyone remember the rap song, fuck the police? How about Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture? How about John Lennon's "Imagine"? All political pieces, meant to affect political change. Do I agree with them? With exception to 1812 Overture, no. Do they have a right to exist? Yes. Should political pieces be accepted here? Absolutely. As long as your song isnt extolling the virtues of violence, murder, rape, incest, or other heinous activity, free speech is one of America's founding principles, and I believe in it. America happens to be the only country that had the balls to include it in our founding principles, and it exists for a reason.

I am not apologetic anymore. I am tired of being trampled over by shit heads that have nothing useful to say, have no understanding of how to create anything, instead, they sit around and critique the work of others. This is maybe controversial. Maybe I am coming across as a dick head, but I am through with diplomacy.

This is a powerful medium and a powerful opportunity for people to learn. My orchestral arrangements are very good, and this is not intended as bragging, this is intended to say that I know the work I do surpasses most of the kind of orchestral work I see around here. This is not to say ya'll are terrible, its to say, this is a perfect opportunity to learn. Its a perfect opportunity to share and put yourself out there in what SHOULD be, a non-judgemental community. Understandably, what I do is fairly niche and I understand there are not many here that are writing thematic film score orchestral music. Nonetheless, I still listen to nearly every genre of music out there.

I know there are alot of folks here that want to be able to do what Daniel James does. Guess what? That doesnt come without practice and collaboration. I have spent two years learning MIDI intimately. Using my 30 years of composing experience and music theory, I have made the technical aspects of MIDI work to create truly astonishing pieces that far surpass even my own expectations. I sit back and listen to the dozens of pieces I have composed over the past 2 years and I am not only impressed that I did that, but that the technology has come this far. I also am always learning something new about how to improve. Good criticism leads to self improvement. Critiquing others work leads to improving yourself. Not only do you learn what NOT to do, but you also learn what things TO do. If you can learn to critique the work of others in an understanding way, you will see yourself improve, trust me.

Since I went a bit off topic here, I want to bring it back to one simple thing. My mother always said, if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all. Just because it is old advice, doesnt mean it is bad advice. Be a better person and stand up for what is right. Call bull shit out for what it is. Most importantly, Always Be Creating. Put your work out there for others to see. You'll develop thicker skin over time, but in the end, especially if it is valid advice, there is always something new to learn.

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Do you have enough tabs open?

Von_Steyr · Oct 10, 2019

Radioactive Fallout said: ↑

@Von_Steyr you see, as I said without those withouts, everything gets personal and nothing great comes out.

Whenever we learn to divorce and disassociate extra accessories from the art, in that case, maybe sth positive comes our way.
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Let me tell you a true story. I was invited to an AS lounge party. The flyer was tempting.

So i went.

But only a skinny mod came, with a bag of old Toshiba hard drives.

So i went home.

RiffMaster · Oct 10, 2019

Unsubscribed

Xupito · Oct 10, 2019

recycle said: ↑

I give you my permission to tell your everyday nonsense here on audiosex
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Thanks but I'm good without it
Give my regards to your balls

RiffMaster said: ↑

Unsubscribed
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Take care.

taskforce · Oct 10, 2019

littlewierdo said: ↑

free speech is one of America's founding principles, and I believe in it. America happens to be the only country that had the balls to include it in our founding principles, and it exists for a reason.
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Free Speech is a mandatory prerequisite in any democracy and democracy was invented in Ancient Greece about 2500 years ago and re-invented in the French Revolution. Nothing you know of as it seems...
By America you probably mean USA, but hey they are synonyms in your world right? Well then, America elects trump, continues to live in the far west with guns, eats the worse junk in the world and ghettos & racism live on. You were saying?
Hmm, forget i asked, you said:

littlewierdo said: ↑

I have spent two years learning MIDI intimately. Using my 30 years of composing experience and music theory, I have made the technical aspects of MIDI work to create truly astonishing pieces that far surpass even my own expectations. I sit back and listen to the dozens of pieces I have composed over the past 2 years
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For real, all that? I was under the impression that all it takes a musician to learn MIDI is 2-3 months. Do those astonishing pieces resemble that bossa nova piece you posted ? I guess with 300 years of experience you will learn how to program and/or play a proper drum/percussion track.
PS: Funny thing you posted Mynock's post as a negative when he's most likely right.
Sseeeesshhh, crazy peeps lol.

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Olymoon · Oct 10, 2019

Marcsal said: ↑

Sir how about taking measures to prevent members to continuosly attack others? I remember you telling me by PM that insulting another member would get me banned. Why do you allow the likes of @shawsndada to continue insulting @The Pirate ? Since I have been a member I have seen @shawnsdada insult the @The Pirate like 5 or 6 times. Just like he did now.
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What about , I have seen your report now, but hey... I'm not 27/7 online?

Olymoon · Oct 10, 2019

This thread is going nowhere, so it's closed.

SAiNT · Oct 11, 2019

The Pirate said: ↑

Lately, the attention of the forum seems to be focusing on everything but music-related topics. To be clear, time and again, we are faced with threads that have little to do with music or the entertainment industry. Threads discussing climate change, politics, trolls, or the ignore list seem to be the norm rather than the exception. What is more disturbing about this trend is that these threads are allowed to run for long thus leading to unnecessary controversy, and serving as a platform to personally attack other members of the community. There is no benefit to this community in having those threads. They do nothing but shift the focus and orientation of this forum from what it should be. Are we here to talk about music, mixing, or are we here to discuss Foster, climate change, Trump, and Nazis?
In these kinds of situations, it is easy to point the finger at certain members but some of the blame for what is going on here also lies with the administration.
First, there is NOT one single paragraph defining what Audio Sex is about. That should, and needs to be, the starting point. We have rules explaining some of what can be done as well as to can not be done, however, without a clear statement as to the purpose and goal of this forum, these rules can be interpreted broadly or simply ignored.
Second, allowing a thread to run for several pages and then closing it down because of "controversy" is not, and never will be, the solution. All that this does is create confusion, fuel controversy, and open the door to another thread complaining about the closing of the previous one. A thread should either be allowed to run or immediately be closed or deleted.
To say that this forum is turning into an unpleasant place to visit and participate would be an understatement. This is the reason why long-time and contributing members have left, and others continue to leave. ( Don't celebrate, I am not going anywhere. Either @SAiNT, @Olymoon or @ArticStorm will have to kick me out)
Indeed, it is absurd that in a forum purported- to-be for professional audio lovers a member posts a track and the thread goes ignored, while threads about some topic totally unrelated to music become immensely popular. Do not blame the administration for it. We are the only ones to be blamed for our own lack of enthusiasm and interest in what we claim to be our passion.
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what exactly do you propose? close Lounge? Make dozens of new rules which 90% of members never read? hire and train a few more moderators which we'll never find?

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