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Dear frenz,

Having played guitar forever and keyboards for a few years now I manage to be rather self supporting at home recording, yet at this point I find myself in need of expert help concerning the creation of a rather specific MIDI tambourine pattern for Pro Tools.

What I would like to end up with is a continous, basic, tambourine like in "All I Want To Do", that old song by Sheryl Crow. No fills or frills, just that laid-back ching-a ching-a ching-a ching. I confess straight up I do not know how it is done. Especially the wavy back-and-forth motion which would be key to "realism" I cannot guess how to go about modeling.

My intention is to use that "All I Want To Do" type tambreen like a click track, so it would have to be adjustable for tempo. I have "got" Utopia Pro Tools 12.5 and Addictive Drums 2, as well as a few percussion libraries for Kontakt. A correct MIDI basis (file) is what I am looking to make or find.

Please boost me here. Any help greatly appreciated by yours truly,

FiX

Baxter's comment, below, right on the dot! Thanks for the input.

 

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The first 5 seconds from this track is clean to sample. Maybe extract and use melodyne to convert it from audio to midi. You can then use the midi as basis. Just suggestion

 

Thank you, @Futurewine, for your creative suggestion. Perhaps I should point out I have no experience at all doing that kind of thing with Melodyne and such. All I know how to do is hit "Record" or "Play" in Pro Tools which I pretty much use as an old-fashioned multitrack recorder. I do know how to compose basic drum accompaniment, using my piano as MIDI input. So really what I need is instructions, or perhaps an example, of how a meaningful tambourine should be concocted in that fashion.

Thanks though, preciate it much.

 

Why not just play a tambourine and record it?

 

midi file
https://www44.zippyshare.com/v/bGKIqlwc/file.html

 

Maybe you can have this guy sit in on the session:

 

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Sure but I want it as MIDI so as to be able to use it as a substitute for default click track and be able to use it with different tambreens now and then, as well as expand on it when I feel like. Versatility really.
Thank you @Baxter and @SmokerNzt, good one, there we go.

 

Wait a minute! @SmokerNzt , did you just make this ??? THANKS, MAN!

Edit:

OK I understand what it is now, I'm getting it sorted, will study and possibly work from it, muting some parts but retaining the tambourine notes.

 

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That sure makes sense @Baxter , I readily agree I do not know enough concerning the matter but I see the point you make very clearly. Thank you. I've come from regular reel-to-reel recording to DAW since just over two years or so and I've hardly ever (if ever) played onto a click-track myself. I'm 64. Always done freehand playing & singing, my acoustic guitar accompaniment is steady as Ringo. Right now however I want to build a rather layered production of an old song of mine which requires a time base to accomodate for Addictive Drums and the sync'ing of (synthetic) bass line, piano, Hammond, and strings. So this time around I must use a beat guide, but it has to be something sufficiently percussive yet musical sounding so as not to hamper the feel of "untethered" playing. Then I thought of the tambourine but I do now realize the difficulty you point out. Another solution might be to center the tempo guide around cow bell, with something like maraccas surrounding it. The deal is I can't stand the harshly unnatural 4 bit electronic "cooking timers" that normally make up default click-tracks. I just hate those. Also I'll need to be able to adjust the tempo at any time during the creative process by +/- 1 or 2 bpm as the developing work will have it. This has to remain subtly flexible, I do not mean time stretch, just adjustable.

 

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https://www.lidl-shop.nl/Muziekinstrumenten-Set-met-xylofoon/p100268052001
it has some latency where you have to deal with

 

you can download EZD2 Toontrack they have a tambourine,they have a free trial also,you have a keyboard so it's easy

 

you assume everyone has access to anything. every single time you say why not do this or that. why wouldn't they do it if they had it.. like for real?

 

@Nigol , hi, sure I've got EZD2 among other instruments/libraries containing a plethora of tambreens, what I specifically meant was an example MIDI file to work from, learning how 'realistic' tambourine programming might actually be done. Not quite as straightforward as one may be inclined to think. But thanks for the head-up.

P.S.: jij koopt zeker al jouw muziekinstrumenten bij LIDL?

 

Ok got it.

P.S. ben je gek ik betaal helemaal nergens voor

 

No SM58 or tambourine?

 

Hi @Baxter , well it's not that often forum members of some fame will actually throw us a selfie, but congrats on your creativity .

I'm a pretty accomplished tambourine player (if I say so myself albeit with no support apparently) and it's fun to do while not even the easiest to record. For clarity there's a pair of early '70s Neumann KM86i small diaphragm mics I have access to, although SM57s (which BTW I'll use for just about anything) have also worked very well. Now - paying heed to some points of advice in your earlier reply, the Best Answer by a long shot (thank you) I have meanwhile settled on a bit of a hybrid solution, meaning a somewhat percussive MIDI basis with a hand-beaten tamb on top, which allows some BPM +/- adjustment and of course serves my purpose really well.

 

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