Bro r2r was not even the first group that said that. This nevertheless it is not about r2r. The release groups in the w4r3z scene have always been against making money off piracy. They never intended for their releases to be used comercially. Indeed, the groups don't even get involved in the distribution of their own releases. They expect you to support the developer by buying it after you have tried it, and decided that you like it. If you are making money with it, there is no justification for not supporting the developer. None.

 

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Software developers can rightly envy hardware developers. This guy has probably (but we can't know) purchased those gears.
So, looking back in the history of torrenting music, the solution was not the criminalization point of view but the creation of digital music-stores and later even further the subscription-based streaming services. It's just more convenient to pay a streaming service fee (a few bucks) than torrent albums then extract it etc.
There have already been business models linking hardware with software but only to tease someone with an LE version of Cubase or ProTools, for example.
The real change would be:
- either a much broader range of software-license linked to an expensive hardware.
In this case I'm not in favor of the idea of a subscription model. It exists (elsewhere too) and is ungenerous as hell, not cheap at the end.
- or, as in the mobile's app store you can find software for a relatively cheaper price, perhaps this is gonna' lead to that future when people would use exclusively those mobile apps that in the now closed ecosystem you must purchase to use. But for this, developers have to provide apps as powerful as on traditional computers. Thanks to Intel's slow down, it can happen sooner than we would think...

I wonder if the distributors of this guy's music are going to intervene refusing to pay for the copyright based on the fact he has broken the contract using unauthorized software. That would teach him morality at least if not else way.

 

He among you who is without sin, let him throw the first rolling on the floor laughing his arse off.

 

Its called UAD.

 

Make money. Make moves. Take care of the developers. SMGDH.

 

well, buying a Universal Audio Apollo Twin USB Duo for €799 (to get Analog Classics Pro Bundle for free) is steep and as far as there are cheaper hardware available, this guy won't buy that expensive stuff in Africa.
My analogy was getting annual music streaming paying the price of 5 music CDs, not 500 CDs a year.
I know, one is individual customer for personal use, the other is for business, earning a living.
But as far as software is expensive and many times not reliable, people will feel the necessity to try before buy.

 

lets be honest here guys...i know the argument would be "why dont u use free stuff"...but do we really think a guy from a part of the world where its difficult to even feed yourself is expected to spend 1000 dollar on a software off the bat? Do they have to deprived of learning how to use these softwares simply becuase they cant afford it ?? i would argue otherwise.

Now, when he makes it and is making money..sure..it only makes snese for him to pay the developers etc..but to shame them for not having access to the monetary means to get things like we do is kinda unfair.


plus..folks underestimate how much giving people access to a software makes them become hooked to that brand. If someone can get a pirate copy of some piece of software, they learn from it..as they grow, they become comfortable using that software and when its time to start investing their money, guess where they spend it?? ON THAT SOFTWARE!.

I remember back in college, i couldnt afford ableton live, so i pirated it...i learned how to make music and once i graduated and started making money and wanted ot take music making seriously, guess what i bought?? At that stage i couldve easily bought Reason or logic or whatever else, but thats not what i was exposed to in the start of my music making infancy...now i am essentially stuck to buying/using ableton products

 

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The guy himself and studio don't look like he has problems to buy something to eat.

 

yeah ok, I somewhat agree on this, but where to draw the line then?
what to buy from your first made penny? your daw? the plugins? all that you downloaded?
the plugins that were on that particular track?

To stretch it even more, are you allowed to make tutorials if you don't use/set advertisements on your youtube? or gave an interview with your local platform?
Back in the day, Visitors of my studio would sprinkle marihuana around like a humanitarian, would that have portrayed me as a villain loading fab filter pro-q?

 

That is a subjective question. Everyone is free to chose what they want. There is no line to draw. If you are getting paid for doing something, you should buy the tools that you use. It is part of running a business. The way I see it, in the music business some people do not want to have any type of business expedintures when it comes to software. They are willing to spend $1000's on hardware they barely know how to properly use but would not spend $50 on a reverb plugin. These people think that scene groups like r2r exist to provide them with all the software they use in their recording studios. That was my whole point.

 

team air is still in the game ? must give the guy a head up on r2r , audioutopia and v.r

 

you are naive or viewing things from a biased lens

this is a series where they get these home producers that happen to have a big song to come into that studio and play their tracks. Thats not their studio..its a popular studio in nigeria that a lot of the musician use. You can look at the other videos in the series and see that all the guys there go into that studio.

As someone who follows a lot of these guys on instagram, a lot of them literally just have a laptop and mediocre monitors and not even a midi controller because they cant afford it. The beauty in that to me is how they are still able to create something beautiful with so little at their disposal.

Regardless..at the end of the day, if they start making money from these things, by all means we can crucify them for not supporting the developers...but until then, im not shaming them for using whats at their disposal to create what they create. Nigeria is not america or europe

 

I may forget to pinpoint what is given:
a producer reveals on a video in public to commercially use pirated software.
That`s the whole and only point, nothing else.

The former subsequent enumerations are done in this light
and I recommend to go over them again just to get an idea about the impact.
Alright, over and out.

 

"In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught.
In a world of thieves, the only final sin is (being caught, by mob of guilty ones) stupidity." - H.S.T.

 

People are surprised by this but I think its very befitting his situation. He's making a derivative genre that is only slightly above mumble rap due to its emphasis on cultural instrumentation, it all feels hollow and cold but that isn't because of his tools or methodology since he obviously has a good understanding of all the technical and musical concepts required within his genre. It's because of his attitude toward his craft, it comes across as nonchalant in the worst sense of the word so I'm not shocked he's using pirated plugins without caring that anybody knows. It obviously isn't an issue of money as he's willing to spend a decent chunk on his physical surroundings. I'm not implying it is inherently immoral to use pirated stuff because I did for many years but I think the prices of his chosen pirated plugins are all very reasonable in comparison to having multiple hanging flat screens and improperly positioned monitors.
Here are some the lyrics to the song.
"Don't nobody do it better, better than me Can't nobody do it better Check 'em and see I know say one day e go better I go carry grammy Because anything wey better require planning Don mi don mi o"
Its devoid of meaning and if it were American hiphop we'd refer to it as rapping about being a rapper. It is post-post modernism distilled into a pseudo serious subject matter about flaunting fake wealth. I hope the irony isn't lost on anyone.
Maybe I'm over-intellectualizing a form of expression that appeals to baser human desires in the modern world but I like seeing videos like this because it really shows you who your competition is in some genres. Overall I think this paints a negative light on African producers and artists in a time where they are finally receiving more recognition. Just like how the infamous avicii video set back the industry perception of FL users almost permanently this isn't going to do us any favors.
Apologies for the disconnected rant but I hope that anyone going through this thread at least has the common sense now to not show off their warez on camera.

 

When he spends 7000 dollars on the Yamaha synth, the dual screens, the dramatic lighting, the full width MIDI controller, the near field monitoring and the studio desk, the shades and the damn silly yellow shell suit, I think there's a certain expectation that he doesn't let his willy hang out when he's making an I am the Man video.

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime and above all else, don't get caught.

 

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Regardless of other issues, it was either major derpage or inconsideration.
[edit: It could also be a combination of the two, but I will kindly assume derpage, considering his Fl Studio management]

 

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It's like the kid in school that never got caught smoking. It wasn't done in the toilets or behind a tree in the far corner of the football field, or in the dark corridor behind the science building. It was done in the main quadrangle where the entire school was having lunch and anyone could see it.

 

Certain markets don't pay royalties or have publishing laws so you get whatever you can at buyout rates. in Africa, there are parts where 40$ is more then a lot of folks make in a year. Clearly some people aren't able to see from another's perspective. Where there is a struggle there are people dying to express themselves and the lucky ones have a computer and isp's to download. Besides who is going to bring a copyright claim there?

 

it is not the END of WORLD.. you guys are exaggerating... TOO MUCH......... relax....................it is not the end of the world.