Retaining levels when increasing FX dry/wet balance

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  1. Mirrorgrain

    Mirrorgrain Newbie

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    Hi everyone, my first post here, looks like the place to be. I hope I'll be able to offer as much advice as I seek! I use Reason and write techno/tech house stuff. My influences are mainly German labels like Traum and others that release a melodic dreamy minimal sound.

    So I've got this issue that's long overdue: is there a way to keep the level of a signal constant while increasing fx? We all know how select sounds in pro recordings always stay at a constant level when a delay is increased before a break or in some such place. I use Reason. Now, the second part of this question also concerns the release settings. Apart from the dry/wet fx balance issue, I've got a Malstrom producing hi-hat sounds, and as I increase the release during the aforementioned transitions, it also gets drastically louder. Same issue. I think the first issue could be handled with a dry/wet split compressor/limiter setup, but I'm not sure exactly how to go about it. Perhaps a level could be automated to go down during fx or release increase, but that sounds too cumbersome, don't you think? Any help will be greatly appreciated, thanks!

    Dan
     
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  3. One Reason

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    good question, been curious bout that myself :dunno:
     
  4. lysergyk

    lysergyk Kapellmeister

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    yes but this is done using automation...for a "live" performance you'd have to do it yourself ....

    otherwise how about using a bus ...you keep you track pre fader and send it to a 100% wet bus, also you put these two tracks in a group so that when you control one the other is affected accordingly...that would solve your wet / dry volume prob.
     
  5. The-RoBoT

    The-RoBoT Rock Star

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    There is a few ways, for me the best way is to Key a Compressor or just simple Compression techniques tho i prefer to Key my FX.
     
  6. ZUK

    ZUK Rock Star

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    Hi,

    -Manual or Automation for volumen channel / bus
    -Manual or Automation for dedicated FX
    -Compressor / Limiter (sometimes can used with sidechan)

    No more things :thumbsup:
     
  7. cyberluk

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    It could be hard in Reason, but in FL I sometimes use some FX for some part in the mix and I want to mute/unmute them in automation or with midi controller. I use FL Studio's new plugin called Patcher, where I build the chain of effects I want and if some FX doesn't have WET/DRY or GAIN knob, I can put some compressor or limiter and adjust it's gain knob. Here's a screenshot what it looks like: http://flstudio.image-line.com/help/html/plugins/Patcher.htm ...I sometimes sample out Reason's sounds and mix them in FL.
     
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    Automation (and compression if neccessary). It's not rocket surgery.
     
  9. Mirrorgrain

    Mirrorgrain Newbie

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    Thank you all. Obviously I know of a few things to do, I was only wondering whether there is quicker more correct way.

    Well, the effect I'm automating is a Master Mix Send effect, so I'm not sure what you mean by 'group', unless both are in a Combi. Thanks for the advice though.

    Thanks. What do you mean by "key" a compressor? You mean assign a key command to activate it?

    Cheers all!
     
  10. Mirrorgrain

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    Oh right, by "Key" you simply meant "sidechain". Well, if you mean sidechain the compressor to the Delay Send effect..hmm...that one is in a combi of its own, gonna have to give some serious wiring a shot. If you got the technique, do share, cheers!
     
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