useless "Snake Oil" vst's

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  1. Cav Emp

    Cav Emp Audiosexual

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    I agree it's a really good tool. I don't use neutron much anymore but I still use the component plugins regularly, especially the transient shaper. People are ignoring the spirit of the thread and making it "plugins I don't like"

    Still, if you told me I had to choose between neutron and FF essentials bundle I'd take Fabfilter in half a heartbeat. Especially when you consider Izotope has a shown a pattern of abandoning software - and with neutron in particular, abandoning the current version in 6-10 months after release, bugs and all, to squeeze the $150 upgrade from people who bought it. No thanks.

    edit, actually idk what the upgrade price is. pretty sure $150 was the introductory discount price. their pricing is kind of crazy
     
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  2. Xupito

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    OMG ReAxis has a good wah-wah emulation!! It seems everybody has forgotten them because they use to s*ck big time.
     
  3. Gwydion

    Gwydion Kapellmeister

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    has "wah wah" anything to do with synthesizers ? Here's the answer:



    at 02:54 but take the complete thing, It's simply georgeous :)
     
  4. MacMane

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    95% of Komplete .. ok 92%
     
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  5. Guitarmaniac64

    Guitarmaniac64 Platinum Record

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    UAD :) i have seen countless of head to head videos and native sound equally good
    Not to mention all third party plugins ported for UAD that sounds exactly the same as their native ones but is way more expensive and still people buy them and swear they sound different even if the developer say they sound exactly the same WOW that is really placebo..
    And really who nedds to save dsp nowadays 15 years ago it was very welcome but not today
     
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  6. Blair Atkinson

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    The Wider Plugin...Straight Garbage. It just sound phasy, not musical at all. DearVR Pro, Most Replica SSL Plugins and Puigtec ..only like 2-3 are good emulations(Nebula,UAD). Go to a studio and run some drums into a vintage Puigtec EQ..Nothing in the digital world comes close except Nebula.
     
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  7. littlewierdo

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    I dont know if this qualifies, but God damn candy crush being shoved into my windows 10 install. That shit isnt even fun, its stupid, I never asked for it, get that shit out of my OS install. Its a stupid plugin.
     
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  8. mickey

    mickey Ultrasonic

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    HAHA BIG LIE.....BEST DAW EVER
     
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  9. Nightmix

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    ACUSTICA

    OH YEAH I WENT THERE WHOOOOOOOO!!!

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. People who can spell and use question marks.
     
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  11. sms2000

    sms2000 Ultrasonic

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    this makes insane sense to me as well. it was the same thing on win 8 i think - wth
     
  12. DoubleTake

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    Probably because the big "feature" is automatic settings, and that really is not so useful, and maybe misleading.
    I like having those tools in one instance, though, and it seems good to me.
    (I am amateur hobbyist so very good for me to see what is happening - really helps to confirm things people say to check and do).
    I suppose most of the "auto" effects have some of this "snake-oil" aspect to them if they deal with more than a few parameters.
     
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  13. DoubleTake

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    Holy shit. Where can I get one of those?
     
  14. DoubleTake

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    If looking for one tool (one slot in the effects rack) for basic functions it is a good solution as you say, for the price.
    I like iZotope stuff, but I like the interaction of FabFilter stuff too, particularly the Pro Q.
    I hate GUIs that aim to give the user an "experience". I appreciate visual feedback though, and all these are great.
    I think the reason it was originally listed might be the idea of letting it do the adjustments for you.
    But it does say that those are just suggestions...so it is not like false advertising, and I LIKE to see what it suggests!
     
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  15. refix

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    it is not merely just a plugin. it is a transformative spiritual experience.

    there is no true plugin but Track God.

    all praise be to Track God and blessed be its name.
     
  16. refix

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    there IS only one tool for ALL functions on this great flat plain upon which we live. there IS but one slot in the heavenly effects rack.

    there IS no plugin but Track God.

    "on the 8th day Track God created the DAW, and loh and behold, it sounded good"
     
  17. sms2000

    sms2000 Ultrasonic

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    lols. track god is the new Darude-Sandstrom ?
     
  18. Somewhere there is some place
    That one million eyes can't see
    And somewhere there is someone
    Who can see what I can see?

    Apart from the 250,000 other dudes who also downloaded a copy

     
  19. Cav Emp

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    lol are you sure you're not embellishing? the only time I've actually seen this happen was the VSM-3 and they actually were slightly different because of a bug on the UAD version. You should go over to the UAD forum and take the temperature when a former exclusive goes native - their users are not as gullible as people like to tell themselves on here and KVR. Actually you can check it out right now and see how they feel about the Chandler Curve Bender. The general attitude is frustration that they bought something that only runs on dsp because they were told it would only ever run on dsp, and nobody will offer them a crossgrade.

    UAD is just like Brainworx or u-he or anyone else who makes really detailed emulations - some of their plugs are good but not amazing and some actually are exceptional. I think Presswerk, Satin, Vertigo VSM/VSC, bx Townhouse Comp, MJUC, etc. are as good as the cream of the UAD crop. But if you have an Apollo and can get a good discount, UAD is great also.
     
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  20. virusg

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    at firts releases AO plugins wasnt liked them much, then along the way I changed my idea the more ive tried new versions, as for klevgrand plugins; you may not like the interface but those are good plugins in comparison to some outhere, even big names... the GUI's are mostly very ugly but informative...a midway like for my taste
     
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