As ATM everything Orange Tree Samples is 60% off, I would like to pick two "allrounders":

- Electric guitar. Not too concerned about the "tone" of this one, as I'll use it only for composing and demoing the ideas to areal player. In 90%+ cases, it will be replaced with a real guitar. So functionality comes first. Geared towards Evolution Rock Standard as is deeper sampled than the eg. Stratosphere or Strawberry. (It is also the guitar that my friend mainly uses..)

- Acoustic guitar. Here I have a bigger problem, as I'd like to use it also in production.. mainly for some cheesy (mediterranean-style..;)) lines/passages here and there, nothing really special. As I see it the only all-rounder here is Evolution Steel strings - don't really dig the sound. Songwriter has more character, but afaik has only pick art. At the end I was thinking to pick Modern Nylon - a totally different sound, and add a steel string (from ie. Ample Sound) later on.

I feel that Ample Sound excels in this field. Their Taylor was my go-to. Also there is a riffer and i guess the import from Guitar Pro notation sw there - a big plus for me.

Anyway, I'm getting at least the electric one - i think they are worth 70$.

Other suggestions are very welcome (what is with Pettinhouse, 10 guitars for 100+$??), and please forgive any stupidity I may have written - piano player here. ;)

Thank you in advance!

 

ilya efimov is the best acoustic Kontakt instrument ive used
havent seen anything come close

good luck

 

Sounds like you made ur mind up, they're good options btw. I agree w/ ya about steel strings, I'm not a fan of non-nylon, tho. Difficult to remember what acoustic (OTS) libs I used before amplesound, nowadays I think a combination of AGT and AGL works well for spanish guitar. I can remember using Strawberry A LOT back in the day, for some reason it sounded better with Revalver. I think I did use SS and I still use Infinity & (will) use that Texas Twang one, but just for very specific things. (I did notice a lot of noise w/ TT tho, maybe settings need to be changed...)

Yeah, I've played with their uke far moar than their guitars, for some reason. It's just so twangy @ high vel! I'd rly recommend it for just bluesy amusement. The best e-guit library is prolly smthn by the shreddage guys, I use their archtop & strat - they're close to perfect; dry & clean & loads of useful, playable artics. Easy and sensible to set up, too. I use amplesound for most acoustic guitars, but they're still a bit lacking overall; even redone their vib is pretty crappy. I just hope the shreddage guys do an acoustic lib sometime!

I guess try before buy?

 

I'd go with Rock Standard too. It's the Gibson LPC, right? It's the only OTS product I use.

Here I can't help you, but perhaps this good YT channel can:

Agreed 100%. The facilities and features from Ample Sound guitars are awesome. Riffer, Strummer, you can throw them a Guitar Pro tab and they play it pretty good. If that wasn't enough you can export to MIDI.
And the sound of their acoustic guitars is quite good.

You've asked about OTS products so I've told you about them. But even for electric guitar, that are not their best sounding... if you use ample Sound for composing/demoing/prototyping they are incredibly good, for the same reasons than the acoustic ones.

It's also true that among Kontakt guitars, OTS ones are the best when it comes to riffers and stuff. They're really gurus of Kontakt scripting. But you can't beat the performance of a custom-made guitar VSTi like Ample Sound's.

 

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If I were to speak about Shreddage guitars this is like reading my mind. Nothing more to add: the best balanced IMHO. I only can speak for the metal ones though.

 

I'll defo have to try out some more of their stuff when I get time, but you can rly just get lost in music playing w/ them which is the best compliment. I rly hope they do acoustic stuff in the same vein:

 

same here with shreddage. the new engine makes it far more easier for ppl w/o midi keyboard (in comparison to OTS). soundwise, OTS presets is better and i think you will excel well with it because you can play piano, that makes it less sculpting the piano roll. maybe consider mandolin because it's the best on the market and since electric guitar have many other option with more or less the same results.

for nylon, maybe take a look at Vir2 Acou6tics too. i personally prefer Hummingbird for steel strings, and Realrick + Scuffham for electric guitar.

 

Edited: I asked before doing my homework. Shame on me. Forget it.

I've heard the new v3 engine was buggy (haven't tested it yet). What's your opinion?

 

I heard a lot of ppl praising the sound. The only complaints were that the engine/script is a bit outdated. (Not to be of any proof, but really it's the only one working even with Kontakt 4.xx, full version only..) If I don't get myself an acoustic, I will sure have another look at it.

No, not at all.. It's my wallet and less than 24 hours left to pull the trigger, lol. Not a lot of time for a guitar retard..;) In a process of "legalizing" libs, have to (don't ask, work environment..). Covered some of the never-ending orchestral stuff and general drums/pianos/el. pian./organs/perc., and whatnots. Such a difficult job for someone with such low morals..

Yes, it's a Gibson Les Paul (like I said, it's also what my speed-dial guitarist prefer in real life). Based on your opinion @Xupito, and @famouslut 's "good enough" ;), I give them 70$, won't hurt that much. Wouldn't pay the 180$ full price tho.. I can add a strato or tele later, from what you suggested.

I'll probably skip the acoustic altogether and wait for Ample sale or smth. Or maybe take the Modern Nylon and add the sound of steel later..

Thank you so much for helping!

 

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For that price, go for it.

 

Easy to say when it's not your money, ha!
About what I paid today to fill-up my car tank.. a shitty consolation (can't steal petrol at AZ, lol..), but still.

Thanks guys

 

You bet!
But seriously, 70$ for the OTS Rock standard is a really good discount.

I feel you because lately I'm half broke. My last PC purchase was a liquid cooler for 51 euros so I can OC the shit out of my ancient PC and avoid to buy more expensive new parts. It's summer here and hasn't exploded yet, so far so good...

 

@Xupito, sorry.. not funny, well sort of. I am ATM in an area where RPM of my fans went up considerably. Soon well have to spend more money on cooling than on computing power, lol.. anyway you, @famouslut & others, back to work!

Nooo.. asking you nicely..;)), again, which acoustic guitar lib would be your first choice. I made quickly this 2 chord demo to illustrate what will I need it for. Like mostly some cheesy mediterranean lines (don't laugh, it's just prostitution.. a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do). If you could only pick one. You will recognize these ones, other suggestions very welcome..

0:05 Ample Martin
0:50 Ample Luthier

Basically steel or nylon. BTW, no programming, KS,.. I wanted to know, how they sound plug and play -don't trust those demos.

PS: as for the title, asking, because on sale.. not much tho

 

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Taylor and Martin or gibson J would make good contrasts.
I like my Peavey Power Slide lap steel and a Rogue cheap resonator. Peavey's tuned to G6 and the Rogue is tuned to dropD. More fun than samples and plug ins.

 

Well, if it's no limited to OTS then go for Ample Sound. Between those two is very hard different to choose. I'm almost sure AGL (Luthier, an Spanish guitar classic) is more finger oriented, and probably more solo or very fast arpeggios oriented than the AGM. I live in spain so I can tell, but it's not like I know much about AGM.

 

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@rhythmatist, thanks. If I'd go for Taylor OR Martin, which one would be your choice? I totally understand the "fun" part. But I'm quite good with piano/keys.. and it's so damn frustrating picking up a real guitar and start from scratch.

@Xupito ..in fact, I'll probably get the AGL first. It's a couple of $ more than others, but it comes with both pick and finger articulations. Don't know which part of Spain are you from.. but on one end we share the same sea, I guess.;) And, like said, first I need a guitar for a solo Mediterranean "vibe". I'll def pick a steel string later, after I rob a.. I mean, after I rightfully earn some money.
Thnx.

 

---Taylors are very bright sounding. Gibson J's and Martins are known more for a big bottom end.

 

If we are of course are talking dreadnoughts, though my D-18 and D-15M although sharing something familiar to each other don't sound really sound alike as they have different tonewood soundboards (spruce vs mahogany), disimilar neck joints, scalloped vs non-scalloped bracing, bracing that is forward shifted or not, and ebony vs rosewood fingerboards (not to mention ebony vs plastic pins). The D-18 has a big old bottom while the D-15M has less so of one and is most definately not as boisterous. Since procuring a real tortoise shell pick that was stuck in the strings of an old 1938 broken down low quality mandolin that was given to me recently, my go to of all of my acoustic guitars (five) has been the D-15M. That pick helps the treble shine and has given new voice to an already fine instrument.



Also, the new Taylor V braced slope shouldered offering is less bright to me and is aiming at more a Martin type of sound. Besides the Taylor 858e 12 string, one of those new 717's would be the only Taylor that I would contemplate getting. I just can't get with all the others.

 

First, I didn't write well my post, my bad. I wanted to say "Between those two is very hard to choose." But if you want Mediterranean sound it's not such a hard choice, go with AGLuthier.
There's also an interesting detail: Luthier has finger (default) and pick up (expansion) libraries like you said, while Martin has strum and finger.
It sounds kind of coherent to me. It's not like you can't do strums with Luthier, all libraries have the same articulations. But still, important, since we're talking here about the kind of samples available of the real guitars.

BTW, I'm in "Mediterranian" Spain ;-). Barcelona, Catalonia.

 

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Now, a bit off topic, but if you want a bit of jaw dropping, watch and hear these two monsters. Paco de Lucía (Alhambra fingered style guitar) and Al Di Meola (Taylor pick-up style) playing Mediterranean songs. Di Meola, for using pick-up has a bit of disadvantage at certain parts, but then again, he's a monster and pulls off the performance like a boss.