Dealing with Resonant Mids & Highs

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  1. Giggity

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    Dear,

    So, long ago while working on an electric guitar track (being rather amateurish) I thogh what if there was a EQ-limiter to set the ceiling at 0 db that will suppress all the resonants or at least compress them (of course there's dynamic EQ, or Fabfilter Pro-MB, but a plugin to exclusively perform that does not exist as far as I know until today.)

    Today, I cam across this plugin, that does exactly that. Do you know anything similar plugins? or how else do you approach the moving resonants that you wanna remove?

    Cheers.

    Here's a review I found.[​IMG]
     
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  4. Giggity

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    Just checked it; It's actually pretty cool, particularly for classical music.

    What I am specially referring to is an EQ plugin that doesn't let any resonants to cross past 0db, almost like a limiter. Soothe Is exactly that. I wish Fabfilter makes something like that. haha.
     
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    Yes, soothe is magical. But it's also expensive.
     
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    Simple EQ does wonders. If there is uneveness I just use a multiband compressor or a dynamic EQ. Try not to overthink it.

    Edit: Maybe you mic'd your guitar or speaker wrong? If you mean electric guitar and amp, then don't place the mic right at the center. This will give a shrill and trebly sound. Try to change mic placement to get a rounder and warmer tone.
     
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  7. peacefulburningz

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    Have you tried DSM V2, Gullfoss, bx refinement, or Manny Tripple D?
     
  8. YFManagement

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    there are many approaches to deal with Res around Mid n Highs.
    SideChain compression
    A Simple EQ & Compression/Limiter
    Multiband Compression
    EQ Automation
    De-esser
    Trim Automation
    Band Saturation/Distortion
    Hi Pass /Lo Pass With A Mix Blend
    EFX (Cover Up)
    Embrace The Res (Deal wit it)
    ... etc

    just rundown a check list on your method and approach till you get the best sound.
     
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  10. Giggity

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    Yeah Dyn Eq or Multiband compression has been the go to solution thus far, but I think Southe could still have a place in the tool box, eh?

    It was a recorded sample. I actually have no experience w recording. haha.:rofl:
     
  11. Giggity

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    Well said! +1
     
  12. Giggity

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    I have tried refinement; it is a sorta of a Saturation/EQ plugin. Applies Saturation to the high-end and actually, does work wonders.

    No experience with the other two. What's your preference?
     
  13. Evo

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    I bring down with Fabfilter Pro-Q the resonant that i don't want to ear, enable the "Spectrum grab" option, than put your mouse to the spectrum and wait till you notice that you can bring down resonant frequency, in pro-q 3 the resonant are named with keynotes. YFManagement explained all method possible that you can do, just try.

    EDIT: if you don't understand my poor explanation, here you go:
     
  14. Giggity

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    Explained perfectly! Thank you!
     
  15. peacefulburningz

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    Definitely try Gullfoss.

    Smart eq 2 is good too, but static.
     
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  16. jamzprod

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    More often than not, when I run into that trouble it's because I'm polishing a turd or my levelling is off. I initially focus on good balance between lows and highs, and the actual source.

    For me, Eq'ing and compression are used to enhance the sound and not so much to fix it. Of course, you might pull down some frequencies, but nothing drastic that will "fix" your sound at the expense of changing the natural character of your sound.
     
  17. refix

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    was going to recommend the fabfilter eq in dynamic mode but, as usual, beaten to it.

    i have no real experience with the soothe plugin but i will speculate that the algorithm just somewhat 'intelligently' selects resonant peaks based on the parameters that the user sets. there are some plugins that act in this spectral analysis area but may be packaged in a less accessible way. maybe sooth employs some meta-physical, occult algorithm that acutely accesses the meta-real 'essence' of the sound in which please ignore what i say.

    i suggest you take a look at something like MSpectralDynamics which is part of the Melda bundle. just go into edit mode with the button at the top and i think you will be pleasantly surprised at what the plugin can do in this area of audio filtering. i have even used this plugin to suppress microphone bleed fed back through the sidechain which is useful in some situations.

    not exactly in that area but the Melda MDynamicEq also has an interesting feature where you can comprehensively track the harmonics of any particular node and treats them. kind of like a dynamic comb filter. just right click the node.

    on a side note, the Melda bundle has some really interesting and useful tools in it. the plugins are feature packed and of reasonably good quality. having said that the UI can be a bit off putting but this is probably because they try to cram so much into each plugin.

    agreed. i think this is more for 'emergency' situations. i am sure we have all received 'those' files that are 'less than ideal' [crap] and there are no options for retakes. just fix it, fudge it, hide it, crush it, deal with it or reject it and forget about it and move on to reassessing your existential work/life choices and having to accept 'those' types of projects because they pay well ;)
     
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