Best options to format ssd's and hdd's

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    whats the best unit size and so on..
    for flash drives
    for system drive
    for data `?

     
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    i saw some members talkin bout this but cant remember where...
     
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    4096 bytes for NTFS as far as I know... :dunno:
     
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    thx mate
    thats default unit isnt it....
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    when to use fet32 again ? for flash drives i choosing that , dunno why anymore
     
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    Yes, that's the default. Only if you're going to use the drive for huge files like recorded audio and video you should use bigger cluster size [64KB], because when a 1000000 files use 64KB per file, the waste of space is too great, and the gain in speed from using such big cluster size is not worth it.

    FAT32 is usually used for flash drives [sticks]. It doesn't support partitions bigger than 2TB and file sizes bigger than 4GB. It also doesn't support NTFS' security features, if you care about that. :wink:

    FAT32 could be used for audio if your partition is <2TB and if your tracks are always smaller than 4GB, obviously. FAT32 is faster than NTFS, especially if you use bigger cluster sizes than 4KB. When you know the limitations, it could be a really useful file system to use. Files I record are never bigger than 4GB, not even close. But if you work with video you could easily surpass the 4GB limit.

    p.s. there is a little problem with FAT32 in Windows as Windows will let you format only up to 32GB FAT32 partitions. You can easily overcome that problem by using GParted Linux Live CD, or just GParted from within Linux.
     
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    i didnt wanted to quote youre name again and again but you did pop up anyway...thx a lot pal
     
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    means that FAT32 format for an audio only workstation is highly recommendable ?
    kontakt libarys are big but always made up from small files isnt it `?
     
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    As usual hats off @SineWave, my man
    @wasgedn mate you can already mark his answer as "best answer"
     
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    There are surely other tools you could use to format bigger FAT32 partitions, even from Windows, but I settled for and love GParted. :wink:
     
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    Well, I would say only if your bottleneck is the disk subsystem. While FAT32 is indeed faster than NTFS the limitations can bother you at an unexpected moment. NTFS also allows bigger cluster size, for instance.

    nkx and nks containers are limited to 2GB but this is the old DVD limit, not a hard disk one.

    ExFat is the other one, only makes sense if you want native support from both Windows and Mac.
     
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    Kontakt libraries never contain files bigger than 2GB [losslessly compressed parts], indeed. But since there can be millions of samples I wouldn't advise using bigger cluster sizes than 4KB. So it depends on the libraries, or rather amount of files in these libraries.

    Now I remembered another FAT32 drawback: you can't boot Windows from it with anything newer than Win98. But that's not such a big problem, eh? :wink:

    Nice new avatar, Xupito. Your style. :wink: :)

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    There is a little neat trick you could use to make the amount of files on the partition drastically smaller. ISO the folders with samples and mount them when you want to use them. It also makes defragmenting the drive much faster. I use WinCDEmu for mounting ISOs. It's a little, free, portable proggie.
     
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    Very interesting, I do something similar.
    I use winrar not only to compress but to pack (many times without compression) everything that has a lot of small files and doesn't need writing on my HDDs. In my case it's even more important since I use RAID0 2xSeagate drives. Seagate's are fast but even for HDDs have high access times.

    Like you say it helps with fragmentation and consequent speed. I also do it to enforce security (rar files with password and 3% of recovery record) and antivirus scanning times. Though the latter is a dangerous thing if you don't scan first lol
     
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    done...first time i used this button..always forgotten this button....he he
     
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    That's a much neater trick, Xupito. I remember you mentioning it in the other thread. You use WinMount to mount compressed files, right? Do you know of any other programs that can mount compressed RARs? I'm not saying I'm too lazy to investigate it. :) I like small, possibly portable, non-resident programs. I've never use WinMount. Well, so far. :wink:

    That's really, really neat. When you RAR those sample folders you could gain up to 50% of space. Plus defragmentation takes soooo much less time. I'm definitely going to check it out.

    Thanks! :)
     
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    :wink:ok i do iso's with samples stuff..i allready began to rar everthing what was just extracted in the past...
    rar copy faster too...maybe its also saver for enduring vst set up files and stuff ?
     
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    :woot:woohhhoo free iso
     
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    xupito check this...its awesome...i allready told sinewave bout
    https://download.raxco.com/perfectdisk-home-editions
    i have really perfect 3 tb external, needs ages to render but yes...has ssd optimizer too but i dunno if effective...for hdd great proggie

    did u use it sinewave?
     
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    It can mount AKAI ISOs, then you use CDXtract to convert the samples to WAV. :wink:

    But I must say this WinMount looks terrific, too! Usable even with W2K and XP. ;)
     
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