Sorry, but no. Using a DAW is a must for any composer these days. It's the other way around, you write the mockup in a DAW and then simplify the score for printout.

Yes. You can also use you know, the actual modwheel in your keyboard.

 

Could you please help me set up Fader Port on my cubase for mod?
I am having hard time with my keyboard mod because the range is very little.
Thank You.

 

this should help

 

This makes a lot of sense. I did this with a couple of movements of a Schubert string quartet - it wasn't from a MIDI file, I just input it from the score, but same difference - it was quite illuminating. You know in passages where the sound sucks, you can't blame the arrangement - presumably Schubert know how to score properly - you have to analyze your articulations, your note durations, your dynamics, your tempo map, to figure out what's sounding false. It's also pretty easy with a famous piece like that to find a professional recording from a live quartet to compare to your own sound.

 

I'm sorry but I'm not really sure I've fully understood your way.Just to get this clear, you mean write the notes (as if using the mouse) in a DAW, or play them with a midi keyboard and then transfer them in the scoring program?

Cause if you mean like that , I fully agree with you.

 

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You don't put the notes in using the mouse. This is how you get fake sounding instruments, and it takes a ton of time. You press record and play the lines in. Preferably playing one note at a time while moving around your modwheel for dynamics at the same time. You don't open a huge orchestra sound all in one and play chords because that's not how the orchestra works. Every instrument is played separately one by one. The notation software is not used for listening, it's only there to get a printable score to hand out to musicians when your music is about to be played live. You'd export the MIDI out of your DAW, import into the notation software, and then simplify everything and make it nice, clean and easy to look at. It's also when you add things like slurs, tempo/time signature markings, any rehearsal markings (section A, section B, so it's quicker to tell the musicians where to look), etc.

 

swam violin . no clashing wavs

 

THANK YOU @Hoppe , I had not heard of this library before. I'm going to have to check it out!

EDIT: OMFG! But I agree ...The Best so far!!

 

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@Qrchack Yep.I completely agree.That's the correct way of doing it.

 

I stopped looking at other violins once I tried this one. The scripting is superb - it's incredible how far you can get on the same instrument. I DL'd it and then I just bought it.

 

The RAM load is crazy, and for the first time in years, I finally hear dropouts. But it sounds so good I found a great work around: I record 1 track at a time by itself at hi fidelity, then remove the instrument tracks, and replace them with the wave recordings to continue adding more instruments to the composition. It is a work around for now, but worth it!

 

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ya, even with 32 GB of RAM I find I'm printing tracks to recover that bandwidth too.

 

The HR- Strings
Demos are here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/raidmarji

 

@Frubbs & Nana Banana

This is a resaved nki for Joshua Bell Violin for kontakt v6,
it only pre-loads up ta about 400 mb and works better than a fully purged nki
but could need a quick batch resave .
https://www33.zippyshare.com/v/izxB2DlX/file.html

I found if you purge any kontakt instruments that are realy hi ram load
then press each key or load in a pre-made daw project with all notes added in the piano roll,
all notes get added into ram for that instrument ,then just save a new version of the nki
is worth a mess around with some other libs as well if ya find this helped a bit
this one saves about 10 gb of ram and still loads fast.

 

Absolutely - I find purging can be quite useful too, though often after I go to the trouble I find I then need to go back and tweak a grace note or something, and suddenly I'm back to needing the whole instrument again. The Bell violin is so fun to play not just because its legato is so well designed but also because every articulation is there in one instrument and you can jump around from legato to marcato to pizz to ponticello to 1/2 and whole step trills, just with a keyswitch. But the cost of having all those all in RAM at once is...RAM.

 

@Frubbs
From what i can tell with me still been a kontakt noob lol
is that every articulation is also added into the patch and added into ram but is still only about 300 mb of ram used,
im not sure how this is and i could be wrong but i try use all the articulation before and it only goes up a few more kb or mb
after alot more playing,I sort of know abit about how purging works so this is strange ?

 

Kontakt only pre-loads the first part of each sample, enough not to run out of cache, depending on the mode. I guess that cache can expand a bit as whole samples move through it - one of the mysteries of silicon. But ya, it blows me away what a huge instrument you can load before you encounter any RAM issues.