@Smoove Grooves yah, it was just jungle for a long time .. I think the ragga was an extension/form of 'reggae' that came a bit later when the sound developed more and branched out into other sounds beyond its initial reggae influences

 

In the end its just names , needed to marketing a product, or invent a new name to sell the new & hot shit ...lol
The artists doin it dont care that much about the genre name, they care about the music.
As i can remember from a outsider point of view (non-uk), that sound was called jungle/breakbeats (more roller breaks, using full parts of the pitched original drumbreaks from the 70s)later the term d&b evolved and never left

 

I wish I had my minidiscs.....

 

https://www.redbull.com/gb-en/drum-and-bass-still-on-top

 

@electriclash
Ah, okay. Ragga as I know it is a type of reggae. And there always was a ragga aspect to early Jungle. But ragga jungle, I don't know.

It's only just occurred to me that, just as the blues informs early swing and then rocknroll, - from black man to white man -...
...so is Jungle to DnB. Black to white again.

 

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/12523-black-secret-technology/

 

I used to be up to dub and dnb.. Here´s my shot from early 2000 :D

 

@Retrolize77 Wow, the first paragraph says it all!
Blues. Jungle.
Rock 'n' Roll. Drum 'n' Bass.
It's what 'the industry' does to real music when it's repackaged for a different strata of people.
You're totally correct in prior post: Us musicians and creators don't care to come up with a name for a genre, we just make the stuff!

 

African rythmic heritage vs western capitalism same with hiphop originated from the bronx (black cnn - chuck d) or detroit techno pioneers (along with the likes of kraftwerk/berlin school).
But in the end, the music is out there, cant be stopped influencing the masses, greater than profit that is!
Btw , im a white guy from germoney, universaly minded

 

@Retrolize77 I actually meant the first *sentence* says it all. But the rest of the paragraph is equally relevant: Goldie is a total twit, by all accounts, and my account. Not a very nice person. Just tripping back remembering the '90's when I was up in Tottenham. Horrible place, but my cousin had a flat I could stay in!
Derek, Jamiroquai's drummer was just up the road, and I was working with another session guy from Urban Species.
Stevie Hyper D shouting "Junglists are you ready?", and everyone shouting "Bo!"
I don't even know why, but that was the required response lol!

 

Now THAT'S a quote!

 

i kno what you mean it was like dnb1 without breaks...i was totally unsatisfied by this

 

maybe its s1100 timestretch

 

this is slowly going to dnb1

or maybe jungle2
but this is no jungle anymore

dnb1

i call it like this ohne gewähr

 

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the best and hardest sets i ever heard live were from dj bailey 2000 sylvester in MTW,doc scott BOX 96 , several bassface sascha shows and 1 times fockin goldie o25...

 

i dont see any dubplates here heh heh...

 

@wasgedn

Or the 950 or 1000.

 

Maybe because, by nature, they were only good for so many plays?

 

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those are not allowed here