but with 303 is such thing ...maybe you didnt realize...66bbpm+66bpm =132 bpm but with abl2 it was better groove a few bpm below cant remeber 122 or 128 or so..and even than it could run out of clock after some time or it wasnt in sync anymore on next restarting arrangement..
but i guess thats joy of that used 303 midi emu....just like in real maybe ..
just talking not arguing with you or so..

 

Last edited: Jan 23, 2019

maybe this plugin: Initial Audio SLOWMO – HALF SPEED EFFECT PLUGIN never tried it
https://initialaudio.com/product/slowmo-halfspeed-plugin/

 

Master tempo is an evil thing, and why DAWs typically suck. Let's at least have tempo per track and/or clip, FFS.

One way around it I have used is the serial technique of calculating entry delay from one event to the next. That's pretty easy in Max where you can compute everything.

A more "conventionally musical" way to get more temporal flexibility is embedded tuplets, nesting measures inside of other measures. But again, most DAWs buck against doing this easy thing easily, which makes it seem hard.

 

good one....but the oldest gross beat is best but for just doing halftime adjustings , slowmo is killer
i had my one and only warez virus(vpn virus)from cableboys halftime p2p rls he he...its so cheap , it was karma lol

 

Last edited: Jan 26, 2019

You asked about the formula. You will get good useable results out of every "simple ratio" of BPMs. 1:2 , 2:3 , 4:5 etc. Each ratio has its own rhythmic flavor to it. Notice this corresponds to the frequency ratios that form intervals in the musical scales themselves (the tones), that's not just a coincidence. If you take an arbitrary ratio like 344:139, then it will usually not be useable, similar to two arbitrarily tuned tones, the meters will flow around each other only "interlocking" in sync rarely. This is its own sound though, often used in ambient.

Another thing to consider is use a simple delay between the loops you have, to fine tune how they interlock, you can get a lot of interesting and unique rhytm effects out of this. Seems like the simplest thing, a delay without effects that is really just some adjustable time lag, but you can play all day with just that, finding the nicest groovy pocket that nobody will know how the hell you got it to sound so tight.

Once comfy with this, start making small adjustments to the BPMs that take them out of sync. So if you had a loop at 100bpm and another one at 150bpm, that is nice, but if you make the second one 148bpm now and very finely tune it to find the right feel, that will sound even more exciting to the human ear. That imperfection in it. Ideally every 4 bars or 8 bars or whatever, you force-snap back to full sync, right on the "one". This was something even James Brown back in the day harped on, he didn't care how funky everyone played through the measure, but on the "one", everybody better hit in sync or he'd be mad!

Get used to fighting against your DAW all the time if you go on this journey, it will try and stop you constantly by trying to put everything into some bullshit mechanical sync. Sad fact of life, modern DAWs make sure that 95% of the true rhythmic and even tonal possibilities in music are totally unexplored by most people.

 

Last edited: Jan 27, 2019

man thx a lot...also foster child