Im experimenting with my mixbus, still in setting up mode. Im curious what you guys do to your mixbus to shape your sound, it can be like a unique footprint, a signature in a way.
Plus i like to know if you got a chain on from beginning, like mixing into a compressor, or do you stack stuff during the process. I know there are severall methods, and i know its a critical thing, to put stuff on mixbus, possibly easy to f**k up the whole thing.

How much compression could be used on mixbus, so there‘s enough room for mastering. By the way, putting plugz on mixbus/masterbus , isnt that kind of mastering in a way?

 

I'd say 3dB below LUFS target is ok, 1dB is too less.

If you're talking about subgroup eqing and compressing, I'd say its in-between mixing and mastering (normally it belongs to mixing, but there's also subgroup mastering, so...).
But mainout/masterbus processing is in deed mastering (maybe even pre-mastering).

 

@No Avenger Ah ok, thx for clearing that up for me!!
So subgroup editing is my nee goal, just got that morphit allways on masterbus to perfect my dt-880, freeze it before mixdown for sure. Thank you

Edit: so you say compression on masterbus is ok to a certain extent? cause at mastering compression might be added? Confusing
Cause you talked about the target loudness volume. Sorry if i cant transport the issue in simple speach, cause you got pro knowledge, and i just begin to learn. Thx anyway

 

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General rule is to setup a sub-master with effects to feed all you tracks into for normal mixing situations.
Thus you would use your main Master bus with effects for mixing final stereo tracks.

This is due to the delay offset caused between tracks with effects & the master track with effects.

Also, when using effects, you can use as many as is reasonable with each doing just a little at a time.

Lots of info on this in print and on youtube.

 

Ok, important point, with the delay! I know theres so much knowledge all over the net, but you guys in here are my first choice.

 

I wouldn't do that at all with a neutral sounding compressor, but if you want to apply a character comp to a tiny amount, just to colour the whole track, then, yes.

 

Cool, that def clears it up, thanx again

 

ssl bus comp is called glue in ableton....ssl bus emu is also in reason mixer

maybe lives glue is better than all the other from waves and duende and so on...at least on electronica

 

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i mix into empty master bus and later i give glue and elephant on master track...
but there is no 1 rule like mentioned

drums always as bus
kick and bass sometimes too

overload...syntax error

 

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many use less then-3dbfs , up to -6 or even more i blv....i am round -3,5

 

When I mix and master a track, I meanwhile prefer not to master the stereo file, but subgroups like vocals, synth, guitars, drums and bass. This way I often achieve a better result especially when it comes to dynamic treatment.

It's not so much about the peak level (can even be above 0dB with FP wav) but to stay below the LUFS target for more than just a single dB.

 

thx for heads up....you are one of my 4-5 big teachers here....always helping
realy living encyclopedia

https://audiosex.pro/threads/loudness-levels-2-masters-what-levels-do-you-aim-at.41639/

 

retrolize dont want highjack but its on topic i guess

 

really thought mastering always is made from 1 mastertrack...
good to kno