yes some suits are driving a good company against wall for 3% more more more more
EDIT and to fulfill lobby agendas ala apple tactics

 

Last edited: Oct 21, 2018

im curious ....devs like output cant like this too....
sry for bumbing....but this is so laughable and was so predictable...
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its the start of the end or everyone is living with this shit and they come through with it...like in common reallife politix too...

 

Last edited: Oct 21, 2018

So you all complain and about NI regarding that they try to protect their work from been stolen ?

Anyone really using Linux Sampler ?

 

apple tactics has nothing to do with copy protection.....
all legit users have pain in the ass with kontakt upward backward compatibility....
they fckn them selfs im complain bout cause i loved that company but nowadays actions of them is .....
that nowadays ppl see no discrepant in no backward and forward compatibility is saying also much...but thats not true...they see discrepant but they gone live it...and thats wrong
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they want control everything suck out the most what is able...
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not giving translator6 license will raise issue.....but of course not for scorers where their money comes from..
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its like they cutted kontakt into half.....i say , its of course a suits decision from managing-committee and not a decision of its native developers

 

Last edited: Oct 21, 2018

Guys, don't panic. The news is literally only that you can't load Kontakt libraries (both paid and self-made) in stuff like IK Sampletank, Steinberg Halion or whatever other sampler you're using. And that you won't be able to count on 3rd party "convert Kontakt to soundfont" programs anymore. Several points of interest here:

• you can't load Halion/Sampletank in Kontakt or SFZ players, either, so it's not only the bad evil NI who does this
• Kontakt still loads SFZ and whatnot just fine so you can create your samples in SFZ for futureproofing and load them into Kontakt that way
• you can always just open the patch in Kontakt and save all samples as WAV/AIFF if you want to archive your own stuff (some paid libraries won't allow you to mess with the raw samples though

So it's really a no biggie. Most other samplers work the same way and use their own formats that are not compatible with each other.

EDIT: The company that spread the news is crying a lot because they're selling software that converts between Kontakt/EXS24/UVI Falcon/MOTU MachFive/Reason NN-XT/SFZ/Alchemy/Ableton/SampleTank/HALion/SF2/AKAI/IL DirectWave/TAL-Sampler. Of course they're crying when NI is basically taking half of their business out by preventing them from supporting Kontakt files.

Also, the reason for NI to do so is sample companies don't really want people to get and save the raw WAV files from their libraries. A side-effect of this is that by locking you from taking the files out, they also block that company from creating converter programs. Again, no biggie unless you really need to play your strings from Kontakt on an MPC. And then still, you can just open Kontakt in your DAW and record several notes then import the recordings into MPC.

EDIT 2: they also seem to have software that allows you to create in a single program and export to all the Kontakt/EXS24 etc so you don't have to do the same work in each program. This policy change will prevent them from being able to have Kontakt support. If you desperately need your samples in all the plugins, you can cry, but for just using them again it's not a problem at all.

 

Last edited: Oct 21, 2018

thx for clearing...i hear you....but i just think they take of artists freedom....times of a lot of options are gone to times with less options for the sake of scoring libary companys...as NI has morved in too i guess....NI is more a kontakt sampler libary company today...ok maschine and kontrol...and selling old stuff in complete

 

Last edited: Oct 21, 2018

offtopic but on topic....new adobe audition only win10 compatible....

 

How so? You can make your own sounds in Kontakt, as you always could, and you can always use stuff like SampleTank or HALion. You don't normally use more brand of sampler than one unless you're making libraries for sale. Also, you can still mess with sounds from scoring library companies by recording a note and putting it into your own patch.

Not really. There's loads of stuff to discover in Reaktor 6 (Blocks! you get a whole modular system there), stuff like Rounds, Kontour, Form and Flesh. Massive X is coming in February for Komplete 12. There's Polyplex, Mod Pack, Crush Pack (both are really musical and useful).

Really, Kontakt is the biggest product for NI. Serum killed Massive/FM8 sales, Reaktor and Absynth are too nerdy and complex for most people. Guitar Rig is no longer the software to get since people realized there's plenty of other options, including free plugins + IRs. That said, they're pushing the Maschine expansion ads everywhere like crazy. Anybody actually using these?

Also, audio is getting more and more competitive. With stuff like Slate who comes up with subscription and people suddenly don't want to drop $300 on a plugin. Look at what's going on. AIR sells at 99% off to make people check their other plugins, iZotope adds free Ozone Elements to any purchase, even $1 one, Waves is pretty much permamently on sale down to $29. They're struggling to keep afloat these days. NI diversified by going into hardware and hoping to make some better profit there, so did IK Multimedia with their synth (though they did it years ago right from the start when they started doing iPhone guitar interface cables, tablet holder clips and the likes)

The scoring library companies are very much the same, it's a really crowded market now, and trust me, hiring a full 120-people staff (orchestra, recording people, technicians to set up the mics since there are so many of them, etc etc) is REALLY expensive. And it's no 2-hour movie soundtrack, you have to really spend a week or two of solid 9 to 5 work to get everything done. And then you spend even more time and money on making it sound and feel good, with cleaning the recordings, scripting, programming legato transitions etc. It's a huge and extremely risky investment.

 

Polyplex .Rounds, Kontour, Form and Flesh ....arent these reaktor 5 engine made ?

 

shame that nobody knows them but everybody know omni channel..

 

i got only akai samplers but i also want to be able to convert to yahama or emu sampler format dunno which they use...and i think there a lot of which convert from kontakt to mpc....but its tiny number in compare to scoring....

arent these scorers not use also other platforms from east west or so...

 

This is what happens when there is a monopoly. The next best sampler is a distant #2.

 

They are. Reaktor is a whole big plugin where you can make your own plugins that sound nothing alike. Think Kontakt, but even more complex and powerful.

They kind of put themselves in the lowest tier by offering 99% discounts, nobody sane does that unless they're desperate. Also the sounds are mostly repackaged old libraries.

You'll always be able to convert from AKAI to Yamaha or EMU, it's one of the oldest and most popular brands of samplers. That said will you really be converting 20GB worth of a Kontakt library into your MPC? There's not enough space on the thing, and you'll lose legato transitions and whatnot anyway. Besides, wasn't the whole appeal of these about recording lo-fi stuff and chopping it up? You don't need to convert samples then, just play a note in Kontakt in your DAW, record it to audio and put in your sampler. No problem with that. Will work forever for everything, including EastWest.

 

def quite wrong....especialy these days....

 

20 gb...what a nightmare.....i give up on converting whole cds but also little batches take their time....indeed..

 

Again, you don't need 20 GB of strings with separate pizzicato, trills, and whatnot on an MPC. You really don't. You'd just record a single note and put it in.

A great metric is to look at the date of their latest releases. They are selling off the old so-so stuff at laughable prices to keep themselves afloat.

 

for sure i dont need....but the freedom is gone.......its closed society party now....but i get youre point....
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Last edited: Oct 27, 2018

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Exactly

 

Kontakt 6 no longer imports 3rd party formats,