Ummm, OK, Nicki is talking about gang banging 50 dudes, lubing up her ass etc., good quality childrens muzac.
I can do a mean Twinkle Little Star with my 808 rattling the neighborhood...

 

As long as it doesn't get in the way of your attainment of prowess in craftsmanship, it's OK. Open up all sorts of possibilities for making your tool palette more variegated.

 

yes it is an artform...... much like collages of dog poo and smearing paint with your testicles as brush.....very arty but it aint music

 

Hey, you just gave me a great idea........

 

the problem with a lot of pages in a thread is sometimes a slo-mo like me misses the beat... That is some crazy rhythm, mix and everything.. Did soundcloud give you a special account to upload 32bit or something?? Where's that youtube tutorial???

 

You folks forget that classical music composers also "sample" each other's work! I'm reading at the moment about how James Horner (composer of The Titanic score) borrowed from Prokofiev's Alexander Nevsky and Romeo and Juliet for his Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan and Star Trek III: The Search for Spock scores; how he "sampled" Wolfen for bits of the Aliens theme music. Willow, Field of Dreams and Our Town all sample extensively from Wagner, Schumann and Copland.

STOP FRONTING!

The Beatles sampled Little Richard; Bob Dylan sampled American folk music; etc...

BEATMAKING IS A LEGITIMATE ARTFORM!

 

Yeah they call it "drumming".

 

You call this drumming?

Sucka!

 

No they didn't, not a one of them. It is a HUGE step from being influenced by another artist or composer and using software or another way to record parts of previously recorded or performed works. You obviously are just flappin' your gums, brother, you know the difference.

 

1st, This is an age old debate which when you come around you still get the same truth. Beat making is a form of art. But, you will always have those, that thought that about Rap, rock, jazz at 1st. Kinda hard to believe that in this age we haven't learned from the history of our past genre's of music.

That being said, the track is ok. My real and only issue is the use of the "F" Bomb. I'm assuming that is why you haven't got one comment on your track on your Soundcloud page after a year.

Art has always been subjective to opinion. Doesn't give one the right to not call it Art.

Sampling is Sampling as well. And is different than being "Influenced" Aka Borrowing Bka Stealing from another Artist. It has been shamed but tolerated over the years. In the end all of it is the same to me. Just some want to water down the "borrowing" for their own sake.

So where would we be if we didn't learn from past musicians great work if we did neither. Now I am a musician that plays many instruments.
And I come from the school that wishes all musicians played an instrument...but I have excepted the new ways of expressing art through "layering" of musical motif's.

Hey, all things change..."Nothing and no one goes unchanged." -Benard Ighner (George Benson)

Now after you finished reading what I said, make your day better and go listen to George Benson's version of "Everything must change"!

 

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Yes.

 

There is no line finer than that between art and garbage.

 

Let's hear your "art" then.

 

Why did you choose Beatmaking? 1- You love it? or 2- It's much easier than other kinds? Or both?

Suppose you had a profound musical background, if so, did you choose Beatmaking as an alternative again?

Please be honest with yourself.

 

@black.afrika.zulu.x ... what could you possibly dislike about my comment other than the fact that I'm calling you out for not explaining yourself...again...but rather just blurting out a statement that makes no sense and as well defies common sense and logic. "Flappin' your gums" is something my great-grandfather would say to me when I seemed to be talking just to hear my own voice, which is what he might very well say to you too as it seems apropos to this situation.

So, explain yourself.

 

Speaking for myself -
Because I see rhythm as the foundation of all other music, and in most music I hear, that foundation is weak or missing. Also, I have never bought into most of the assumptions baked into traditional Western European music theory, so A LOT of melody and harmony rules are understandable, but still seem arbitrary. At it's most basic definition, music is sonic events organized over time, so people need to understand and use time to make it work. And I seem to experience time differently than many others, so beatmaking can be a way to express that.

Sometimes. Sometimes it's an annoying compulsion and I just need to do it. I hear some sonic relationships in my head, and I need to realize them to hear and feel what they are like.

Like any form of music, it's as easy or difficult as you make it. Personally, I like to try way too hard, so if it's too easy it's not worth doing. But like any other kind of music, the more complex your beats are, the less people will have patience to listen and decode them. It's listeners who prefer easier music.

An alternative to what? Like I said, rhythm is the foundation of ALL music, so it has primacy rather than being an alternative. It's an alternative to not doing it, I guess.

 

Because it's cool.

Software is for composing and arranging, right? Rather than deciphering strange, squiggly symbols on page and trying to play them, you play actual VST sounds and exceprts from other pieces of music--samples--mix them up together and make musical gumbo. How is using software to compose different from what Wolfgang did? How is James Horner interpolating motifs from other classical pieces into his film scores different from El-P sampling Beethoven here: