ABBA is the typical POP BAND. All the boy bands. Britney, Miley, Katy, Justin... All that stuff. Sometimes good songs, most of the times cheesy, almost annoying.

 

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Pop music demands a voice, whether singing well or ill, or perhaps not singing at all but speaking or chanting or rapping to a beat. Since the advent of the Billboard Hot 100 chart in 1958 only thirteen instrumental songs have reached the number-one spot, the last Jan Hammer's "Miami Vice Theme" in 1985. This predominance of the voice in pop music speaks to listeners lust for language, as well as to the longing for human connection that the voice promises.

 

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Ok i will agree to disagree, np @MHEO. This is my last post as we exhausted this and you seem to not want to understand that pop music is NOT a musical genre. It's just an expression for anything that spells "easy songwriting". If "Voules vous" and "Gimme Gimme!" are pop, then wtf is disco lol... These Abba songs are 100% disco tracks. Isn't 99% of disco full of catchy melodies and hooks, easy lyrics, repeatable choruses, 4/4 beats and short time length for the radio mixes? So pop and disco are the same thing ? And if i admitted that maybe those Abba tracks are pop, then these all must be pop too (but of course they are not, as they are all disco tracks):

And to sum it this is one of the best pop/white soul tracks of all times (at least for me). Toto was never ever considered a pop band.

Peace and out

 

And who cares what reached (or not) number 1 in the Billboard which 95% of its charts are devoted to USA music...
USA is 325mil, and the planet is 7.5 bil. You were saying ?

 

@taskforce you seem to forget that in music "purity" is extremely rare. Contaminations are more frequent, expecially in pop music (which is the most eclectic genre). So, those Abba's tunes that you call "dance" are actually pop-dance. Bon Jovi and the likes played pop-rock. And so on. It's when some elements of other genres are used as a "spice" in pop music. And yes, all those songs on youtube you posted (Kiss, Rod Stewart.etc.) are poppish contaminated and viceversa (soul, rock etc.).

 

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http://www.thehistoryofenglish.com/history_today.html

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-non-En...ucing-modern-pop-songs-in-their-own-languages

 

Failing in understanding the value of:

the voice is a crushing blow and unmentionable.

No fewer than half a dozen fields of knowledge can lay claim to understanding voice. Biologists attend to the physical process whereby human beings generate sounds from the larynx, using a complex choreography of muscle, tendon, palate, tongue, and tissue. Linguists classify the many ways that voices shape human expression, marking differences of pronunciation, accent, place, and time. Musicologists consider the voice in motion in song, describing the aesthetics and ornamentations and ritualized phrasings that extend human expression beyond mere communication to art. Literary scholars explore how voices manifest themselves in written texts, understanding voice as a metaphor for character and affect.​

and for the language itself, the same.

Difference Between Linguistics and Literature (language as the most complicated vehicle for the outpouring of strong feelings):
https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-linguistics-and-vs-literature/​

For everybody.

 

Who can forget this classic?!

 

Here's a simple question anyone can answer..

If the most complicated 10 minute piece was perpetually played on the airwaves and internet, and 3 billion people bought it, would it be reasonable to call it "Popular music" ?? (POP)
Of course it fricking would.
It certainly wouldn't be unpopular music because too many people listened to it and bought it.
Oh hang on, 'Hey Jude' was 10 minutes long and "Thick as a Brick" and "Innagaddadavida" and "Tubular Bells".. there are more but that suffices.

 

THIS THREAD WAS MADE BY THE HOUSE TROLL, PLEASE DON'T FEED !

 

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Haha, you decided to speak ? I will admit i speak English. Now do you mind explaining what language does LilPump,6ix9ine and the rest of the troll rap etc etc speak and why don't you try to expand on their lyrics , like go deep lol ?

 

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So influences and tendences in music are contaminations ?

Never called them dance, i called those songs disco as it is what they are. I can easily rip those songs apart channel by channel and musicologically analyze why they are disco. Who the hell decides those terms what is pop disco and what is just disco and under which criteria lol. The whole disco scene was popular. Everybody and their mom played some kind of disco for a while. You keep naming things pop this and pop them but fail to state why and how.
Bye bye

 

And Bob Marley who fits both critiria with format and sales number wasn't doing reggae at all he was in fact doing....pop reggae ! Lol !!

 

Bob Marley, so considerable influence in space and time to all the countries and all the cultures all over the world for several generations, from Jamaïca to the little Solomon Islands on the other side of the planet

 

Is this Pop Music ?...

Yes, it is Salegy !

 

I guess it has something to do with language barriers or smth? Here (Italy) people can immediately recognize a pop song. One would never call a Marley's song "pop". On the contrary, artists such as UB40 and the likes have a pop nuance, and people notice that immediately. Regarding "Tubular Bells", no matter how popular it is, people here would never call it "a pop music record", maybe "a popular piece of music". The same in rock music: we would never call bands like Tool, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath etc. "Pop bands" only because they are popular, while we immediately recognize a pop nuance in case of artists like Bon Jovi, Def Lepard, Supertramp etc. Again, I guess it's a question of style and genre. Because in English the terms "pop" and "popular" are synonyms, therefore the confusion. Not here (Italy): we use the term "pop" for the specific musical genre (which we immediately recognize), "popular" when something is "diffuse".

 

Ethiopian amharic pop music

 

7 pages of drivels and the pink stinker made them do it. Wow!

 

It's a pretty fair argument. Pop isn't usually viewed as a "genre" in France, maybe it's the case else where. Still it's disputable that the songs you classified in the pop genre have anything in common really.
Anyway none of it is important in absolute, but those are the kind of matters and premisices that should be disputed (that with the whole European thingy) before even debatting the thread that was initially presented to us and carried some heavily debatable, questionable notions. So many clichés in just one sentence, amazing !

Yes and no. It was a sh...y trollish thread in its premisices, no doubt. Then, imho it became a debate which question a few interesting points.
It got defosterised and healthy again !