best daw for midi composing?

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  1. junh1024

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    I used to use sibelius for notation manipulation instead of my main DAW RPR , then I found https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=177142 , which implements sibelius' musical typing, but it was extremely annoying because it includes ALL his personal settings & shortcuts, so I condensed the core shortcuts to this attachment
     

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  2. kooper

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    I have been using Acid Pro for this. Pretty easy to use for midi editing.
     
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  3. BaSsDuDe

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    I know Protools professional studios that use Cubase for MIDI and for score editing on-the-fly and not Protools. It translates better and has more MIDI features.
    It's ultimately a personal choice, but Cubase has been doing the MIDI and scoring since the ATARI 1024 days which is a long time as someone mentioned. It's unlikely when they have a recipe that worked to change it and they didn't.
     
  4. AirTracK

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    Yea I looked up Google and I couldn't find any anything on why Metaller prefer Cubase over other daws. Or how Metaller experience on workflow in Cubase. Can you link me Alex921?

    The second question on Cubase elements is out of convinence. Since I'm already asking him why not get two answers instead of going to Google.

    If you use your brain you would have put this together. Obviously this area of yours is under developed.

    You also need to develop the ability to think before you write something insulting.
     
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  5. safran5020

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    Cakewalk has probably the best midi engine and features but you are under mac...
     
  6. Blue

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    Personnally I tried Cakewalk and I hated it.Same thing for FL Studio.Maybe I would have spent more time with them?...
    Ableton is interesting for midi synths.I like a lot its FXs and Max.But its workflow is so slow!Shortcuts inexistent!You can't do solo/mute with your keyboard in 2018...The shortcuts are really its bad point.
    Cubase is not simple for midi synths when you don't know it well.But its global features make it the best choice or a reference for the least.
    Reaper is very nice as I tested it some times but not the one I find the most friendly.
    I don't know Logic.But a lot of well known artist work with it,probably an awesome DAW.As what I saw and listened it has the best Fxs of all the DAWs.
    Studio One is my choice,super fast workflow and essential features but bad Fxs compared to other DAWs.But its new midi editor with the V4 is not great,you must have good eyes!
     
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  7. Blue

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    @AirTracK if you don't buy the Professional version of Cubase you don't have the side-chain function,and you don't have unlimited audio and midi tracks.I don't know exactly cheap versions have all the FXs.
    But the sidechain is usefull with today's music,that is annoying.
     
  8. kooper

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    Wow an ST user! I learned MIDI on an Atari ST, and I still have my mega 4 and I think the soft I was using is called Edit Track Platinum. It really is very good for MIDI! :like:
     
  9. kooper

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    I guess it's what you are used to? When I first jumped to windows from Atari (decades ago), I started out on cakewalk and I have used it ever since. I do like other packages but I know where everything is on Sonar Platinum so I tend to gravitate back to it. For editing I tend to like the acid pro interface.
     
  10. Blue

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    Yes,I don't understand the logic of Cakewalk.It is really not made for me!And I don't like(hate is more appropriated) Cakewalk workflow,and their synth plugins(Z3ta+,Rapture,Dimension)also,although I like how Z3ta sounds.

    EDIT: and yes I use to work with all of the DAWs I spoke,of course.If I don't know I say I don't know.
     
  11. Rikotoki

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    If midi is your main concern, Ableton is the best, simpler and quicker by far
     
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  12. kooper

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    Again it's what you are used to. I am used to cakewalk so it works for me. I have tried using reaper, because I know it is powerful, but everything is in a different place, so it's going to take some time to learn, so it's on the back burner for now. Just because of time. Same with reason 10. I know it's a very powerful DAW, but it's totally different for me so it's going to take some time. So much so that I always go back to sonar to get results because i don't have time to look things up in the manuals. I have tried a couple sessions with reaper and reason just by using the menus. I did have some success, but very quickly found I had to go dig up the manual to find how to do things. That is ONLY because of what I am used to, and a matter of time. When I get the time i will read. Right now I am concentrating on Logic Pro X and close miced acoustic drums. So it's a priority thing. They all have good systems, but if you need to go look things up, then it has to wait. With Logic I have been able to find things just by looking through the menus (with a few exceptions). The problem is that any of these that are powerful are also complex, so it is going to take some reading, and hands on. I mean when someone says so and so is the best, it just means they are not familiar with the others. If you get used to a set of tools it makes it much easier to create. It's more about the user (that's me) than the tools. They pretty much all do the same thing. I like sonar and acid pro because I have spent time with them. I am fairly decent with audacity too because I have spent some time with it.
     
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    Ofcourse i vote for Reaper.
    With the hundreds of free scripts available in Reaper's MIDI Editor (besides Reaper's great native MIDI functionality already), the arsenal of MIDI functionality is utterly insane big, i would say the biggest of all DAWs.
    For second place i would choose Cubase.
    If very fast workflow is important for you when doing midi in a DAW, Reaper is IT.
    Ofcourse, you will have to investigate time to get a grip of all midi functions in Reaper and create your own custom midi workflows.
    Check out this plz, i show neat things in the midi area possible in Reaper:
     
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  14. Kinghtsurfer

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    Over the years I have worked on Sonar, ProTools, Ableton and Cubase... And nothing beats Cubase in terms of MIDI programming and editing...

    I wont go in to the exact details why as these have already been disussed and are easily available online...

    Needless to say, to each his own... Everyone has their own workflow and favourite DAW...

    This is just my professional opinion...
     
  15. somethin

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    Either Reaper or Cubase...both are really powerful and can be really fast when it comes to midi composing.
     
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    if you are student or know anyone who studies, grab Cubase.
    Look at this:
     
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  17. phloopy

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    I would choose Cubase of two reasons:

    That´s the only DAW I actually know in depth and I´ve used it like 20 years or so.

    I have other DAWs too like Samplitude and Studio One - they´re great but I´ve spend too little time with them to come up with something really convincing and credible insight when it comes to their ability when it comes to midi.

    Good luck :wink:
     
  18. AirTracK

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    It seems most of the veterans in producing choose Cubase. And since I only recently starting using DAW I gravitate to what is easily accessible to me as well as YouTube providing tutorials for. Hence my choice is Studio One v4 and FL Studio.

    I'm always open minded to try new things so imma try to pick up a copy of Cubase n check it out. Thanks again everything.
     
  19. Blue

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    In Europe Cubase is the most used,in USA Sonar(maybe it has changed on the last years).A journalist wrote that.
     
  20. Kinghtsurfer

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    I think FL Studio and Ableton are the market leaders in terms of numbers... Based on polls run at musicradar...
     
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