I think that you are not focusing your thought into a specific proposition then looking at the reality of it in order to formulate a clear proposal.

for example when you say

It is difficult to understand( on my end )what specific topic and context you are talking about.

when you talk about "customized life" are you referring to that aspect of a human beings experience which we feel as though we are able to make decisions and choices?

also when you talk about

what do you mean by "modern" the last 50 years or 5 years or 500,000 years?
and once you identify what time period you mean by modern, what do you mean next about that time period that is relevant to the sentence you are speaking?

I am left not being able to understand anything about what you are talking about ,what context it is in and what point is being made about that context.

This brings me to a final question . ("what outcome did you seek when writing this comment and thread?, "

next

"what outcome actually came from communicating what you actually did?"

Is it your position that reality is whatever combination of words you can form in your thought process? ( IE like poetry)

or am I wrong in assuming that your proposition is about the outside world? is it just really about your thought process decoupled from reality itself?

 

IMconvincedO it is possible.

I'm certainly not a person who will tell how it is possible, a such unbelievable possible thing.

And I would think that nobody will tell how, because nobody must tell how even if he knows ; anyone would had to find it by himself.

How could anyone find it by himself ?... Maybe by searching, searching, and searching again, until he finds. Maybe if he searches enough, the answers will be given to him, at a right time. Given not by any other man or woman, or any ET, or any PTB, but it will be given, to him, in a way that he can't doubt anymore ; and nothing will be forced on him.

So, perhaps one day there will be enough searchers, who will search enough to become finders ; and then another history could take place. Perhaps it is taking place right now, and we just can't see it.

This could seem nonsense, or this could seem a kind of "SciFi enlarged vision". Anyone has only to search enough. Anyone is free to search, or not, it's an inner free choice. Truth is always stranger than fiction, reality is always bigger than one could think at a given moment.

Well, I know. Now you think that I'm utterly crazy.

 

sums up what i think

 

What is it that you really want to do?

 

With all respect, in this case maybe you could look yourself in the mirror and ponder a bit, because I actually think that you might be the one in the wrong here...

I have great respect for you Olymoon, but if this is not a troll thread by Foster, howcome then, do you think, that he is not answering a single person trying to take his quasi-questions seriously. He never does engage in a discussion, just keep on asking quasi questions and then when people stop being angry, post another thread he also is not interested in discussing instead. This is what he does over and over and it is most certainly trolling, even if you fail to see it.

I have spent lots of time trying to politely debate Foster before (have a look back), but he is never interested in debating anything. He does not want any discussion, answers, or different views on his "questions". All time trying to be polite and take him seriously only get answered by him by more trolling questions. That is what plenty of us see and I am afraid you don't.

And you can bash me and others for saying the truth about this, but if it was not for us complaining about what was happening and trying to get you to see the problem do you think you would have had a serious talk with him in the first place? Truth is that I reported quite a few threads trying to explain what was going on without a single answer from anyone and nothing happening for a long time. That said, even if we disagree on this point, I think you are otherwise are doing an awesome job, and I appreciate it very much. I will try to politely and in a mature way discuss with Foster again, but if you see that what I have said in this post turns out to be true, maybe you could reconsider who is right on this.

 

I've put @foster911 on my ignore list long time ago. So I may not be up to date.
Maybe he's more like a grown up person now, but back then (say last year) he was - and that is my humble opinion - terrorizing this community in a way over a longer period of time. And the staff didn't do much (not to say nothing) to stop him.
Now, when he's harvesting what he's planted, the Staff is waking up.
In my opinion he, @foster911, a lot of time has demanded public warnings up to a banning, like you now publicly warned those members Olymoon has so frankly named publicly more or less (no need to call by name). But IF you warned foster911 by PM (what would hav been the right way), then other members should have been treated the same way, not in the way of a public pillory as @Olymoon and @SAiNT did it now. When you call it bad habit what those persons did, I call your reaction bad habit as well.
If I have a problem with one of my colleagues, I ask him to come in my room and we talk behind closed doors. And in a thing called community this should be the standard as well. Leading persons should lead by good example.

p.s: this is luckily not a general problem in AS but only in this case.

 

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In this I agree. At least temporal banning. I think I even humbly asked some mod to do it a couple months ago.

Edited: I wasn't joking, it's true

 

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@SAiNT , @Olymoon , could we agree in that is not the same to cross the line once and stay away the rest of the time...
than to cross the line and toe it a great deal of the rest of the time?

 

So a toothache, for example, is part of the human condition and there is absolutely no point in saying 'go to a dentist"

 

If I never had a toothache, I'd be laughing at that. It's priceless. ONE word?

 

Obviously it's not the same.
But a thread in the lounge section is not a way to troll. As anyone can pass... There is absolutely no obligation to participate.

And that is the main reason of my intervention.

As Saint says:

 

When I see a foster thread I no longer care about the topic, because he has been provoking (stepping the line) and sometimes directly trolling for several months without being banned.

I'm guessing the people who troll him see the same. Some of them trolled by foster, many provoked by.

I can't take seriously a user like this. Look at the tracks he posts, all good in these threads, considering.

 

I was on the sister site and I was sure that this thread was from @foster911 !

 

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I thought trolling was constituted by actions not by where the threads/comments take place . I didn't know the lounge was this special place where anything goes, probably something that should appear in the rules.

In that case a good option would be the possibility to filter out entire sections - here the lounge section - from the feed on AZ.
I don't particularly wanna have to be spammed with weird topics coming from anyone that passes.

 

@SAiNT @Olymoon

But it is not just "a thread in the lounge section".

Fosters trolling looks something like this:

He creates a thread with a contagious subject on purpose, always including a more or less crazy "question" to hide the always obnoxious statement he wants people to fight over.

Then he sits back and watch people fight it out without any interest in debating the "question" himself(!)

When the thread is no longer in the top on the front page of audioz he starts it over again. And so it goes on. And on.

Sure, as you rightly point out, it is a problem that we fall for this and do not completely ignore his threads. But his troll threads is actually the MAIN problem not the complaining about it. The actual trolling is.

IMO, history tells us it is more difficult to get everyone to ignore troll threads than to stop the troll threads in the first place.

A problem seems to be that you and Saint do not recogize his trolling behaviour for what it is.

Maybe I am wrong, but I do not think so.

I do absolutely agree that we all should behave civil and respectful about all this and not revert to personal attacks and namecalling. I will behave more respectful from now on.

 

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At least there should be no topics in the AZ feed from people I have on ignore. Otherwise they are able to irritate even when they are on others ignore list.

 

That or...
Why not a Foster subsection? Easy to unwatch

 

Agreed, I hope it comes to life soon, if it's not impossible to implement for SAiNT.

Usually what comes up in the lounge, no matter the author of the thread, doesn't really interest me at all, same with a few other sections. So I hope that would be a possibility.

In general, and without aiming anyone in particular of course, being able to exclude people's threads that you ignore from AZ feed would be the ultimate anti-troll weapon : their ego can be fed by the fact that they can bait you and anyone that goes through AZ, just with a few attractive/provocative titles that you can't avoid to see. If you can, through the ignore list, it would take maybe 4, or 5 ignores to settle the problem and get back a safe feed, with no white noise at all. With the indifference falling on their thread, they would just get tired eventually.

I actually thought about that joke but I thought I might get banned if I dared to make it.