Compressor release problem...

Discussion in 'Software' started by Tad Mikowski, May 3, 2018.

  1. Tad Mikowski

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    Matt777
    when I get home I try the triger tip and continue my homework.. I really appreciate your help! Yes, I speak italian :yes:
    I do not understand. it's a joke?
     
  2. Matt777

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    Oh, so that's how Baxter and SineWave got their HW... :hahaha:

    "Oh yes, sorry mate.. I'm sure it's broken.. Look,, coz Im good, I give u a few bucks for this. Might need it for parts.." (peeking at the cutoff knob turned left)
    :rofl:
     
  3. Tad Mikowski

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    About my first doubt:
    I understand your jokes and I understand that the problem is me (my inexperience.) I said so because I already had other problems with daw and vst! example manipulator pitch-shifting: manipulator.PNG
     

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  4. MMJ2017

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    Homey you just have to get use to what compressor IS, what it CAN possibly do, what to use it for.
    next what settings will give you a specific result.
    my impression is that you are not looking to get compression based on how it works , you are looking instead for volume automation.

    try a 1176
    try a pulteq
    try a DBX

    try manual volume automation.
     
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  5. Baxter

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    You are using a granular pitch shifter. Granular means that it takes chunks of audio and pitches them equally, but results in different start- and end point for each grain. Doing so creates a buffer retrigger effect, meaning that you will get granular artifacts. Even at smaller grains you will get a smearing sound. But granular synthesis is another huge topic all together.

    Instead, try putting a snare in a sampler and pitch-bend it (yes, the snare will become shorter the higher you pitch your snare).
     
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    Being teached using a compressor propper is indeed a challenge - especially when some people find it amusing comming with off-topic comments.

    Baxter <----- You are outstanding!! :like::like::like:
     
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  7. Baxter

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    Thanks!
     
  8. Spyfxmk2

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    Hello @Tad Mikowski & fellow members :bow:

    something to have a look at if you want :

    #1 Gain staging of your tracks(channels) before triggering your compressor
    #2 transients of your tracks (channels) before triggering your compressor
    #3 unmasking with m/s processing your tracks (channels) before triggering your compressor

    #$$$$$$ 4 (very important) use a calculator & divide this number : 60000 with the bpm of your track,
    then if you want divide again by 2,then by 2 again if you want & so on...
    that should be the release time of your compressor & track/song should be in sync with the tempo/groove.
    Use the same release time on your limiter/s too

    Use your ears too & have fun in the studio !
    I hope this info helps you :wink::bow:

    edit : * divide by 2 & so on for sorter release times
     
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  9. relexted

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    This applies to mastering compression.
    Compressing a group or bus or individual track, I do it like this:

    First set the ratio and treshold to the max. squash it.
    Move the attack up little by little, when the transient of the sound comes thru you'll hear a pronounced click.
    Now readjust the ratio and treshold to a reasonable amount.
    Then set the release time to where the gain reduction returns to (almost) 0 before the next transient hits.
     
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  10. Spyfxmk2

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    @relexted :wink:
    Do you like techno ? nice ! yes yes & yes :thumbsup:

    Yes it does but not only for mastering you can set the release time on lets say a drum group also :winker:
     
  11. Tad Mikowski

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    thanks Baxter I did not know! score: broken tools-0 my inexperience-2 :)
    yes, I have already done a lot of tests.. in the sampler I got the best result!
    phloopy You're right, I'm very sorry for the little off-topic on the pitch.
    Hello Spyfxmmk2.. Thanks for these tips!
    I had already tried to set the release based on the temp, it did not work with my settings (example in my third post on the first page)
     
  12. Tad Mikowski

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    Do you guys assign me a task? for example a very dynamic vocal to flatten?
    Ps. these days I'm learning more about compression, thank you for all your answers:bow: and excuse me for my stupid questions (and my bad English)
     
  13. Matt777

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    Just a word of caution. You don't compress, just because it's "cool". Bad or unnecessary compression can damage your recording, let alone the whole mix. I am not a professional mix engineer, but even so.. your's isn't a stupid question, but there are so many that you should ask yourself before that one. I know you are learning the technical stuff now, but at the end it's all about the musicality. Do yourself a favor, take one step back and look at the bigger picture. Let me rephrase your question:

    "What can I do, how can I treat a very dynamic vocal before I drive my compressor crazy?"

    Ps. The vocals should be on your "learning menu" when you will already have a solid base on how the compressor works (alone and in context with other tools). A little history on which compressors are suitable for a vocal and why wouldn't hurt too.
     
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  14. Baxter

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    Look into vocal riding and volume automation first and foremost. Not all "problems" are easily fixed with a compressor (or two in serial).
     
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  15. Tad Mikowski

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    Matt777 and Baxter thanks for these suggestions:bow:
     
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